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From: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus@gmx.de>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, emacs-devel@gnu.org, dpittman@fb.com
Subject: Environment variables for remote processes (was: bug#18940: 24.4; vc-hg does not disable pager, leading to hangs (at least with tramp))
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2014 19:48:02 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87h9xxvf31.fsf_-_@gmx.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwv4mtyua90.fsf-monnier+emacsbugs@gnu.org> (Stefan Monnier's message of "Sun, 16 Nov 2014 16:08:47 -0500")

Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:

>> Maybe I'm missing something, but what's wrong with let-binding
>> process-environment?
>
> Nothing wrong with it.  The problem is that Tramp ignores those
> let-bindings because it fails to propagate this environment to its
> remote sub-processed.

The problem is, that not all settings of process-environment might be
desired on remote hosts. process-environment keeps *local* variables.

Furthermore, some remote settings might be requested which are not in
process-environment by default. A user shall not be responsible for
those settings; that's why there is tramp-remote-process-environment.
But this is also not satisfactory, because there might be even different
settings required for different hosts.

> `tramp-sh-handle-process-file' really needs to compare
> process-environment with (default-toplevel-value 'process-environment)
> to infer the env-vars that have been added via let-binding and then
> propagate those to the remote sub-process.

tramp-sh-handle-process-file does not start a new process, it reuses the
existing one. The propagation to the remote sub-process must ensure,
that those settings are not permanent. Via a subshell, or alike.

It's not that easy as it looks at first glance. That's why I would like
a kind of design, before starting to implement.

>         Stefan

Best regards, Michael.



  reply	other threads:[~2014-11-17 18:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-11-03 21:47 bug#18940: 24.4; vc-hg does not disable pager, leading to hangs (at least with tramp) Daniel Pittman
     [not found] ` <handler.18940.B.141505143415260.ack@debbugs.gnu.org>
2014-11-03 22:13   ` bug#18940: Acknowledgement (24.4; vc-hg does not disable pager, leading to hangs (at least with tramp) ) Daniel Pittman
2014-11-09 10:24 ` bug#18940: 24.4; vc-hg does not disable pager, leading to hangs (at least with tramp) Michael Albinus
2014-11-13 15:36   ` Michael Albinus
2014-11-13 18:10     ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-13 21:37       ` Michael Albinus
2014-11-14  1:49         ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-16 10:55           ` Michael Albinus
2014-11-16 15:29             ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-16 18:38               ` Michael Albinus
2014-11-16 21:08               ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-17 18:48                 ` Michael Albinus [this message]
2014-11-18  2:15                   ` Environment variables for remote processes Stefan Monnier
2014-11-18 19:14                     ` Michael Albinus
2014-11-18 21:24                       ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-18 21:45                         ` Michael Albinus
2014-11-19  3:16                           ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-19 15:12                             ` andres.ramirez
2014-11-23 10:22                               ` Michael Albinus
2014-11-19 18:18                             ` Michael Albinus
2014-11-19 18:31                               ` Michael Albinus
2014-11-20  4:29                               ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-20 15:52                                 ` Michael Albinus
2014-11-21  2:46                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-22 11:43                                     ` Michael Albinus
2014-11-22 16:33                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-22 16:49                                         ` Michael Albinus
2014-11-15  2:24 ` bug#18940: Enabling hg extensions Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso
2014-11-15 16:00   ` Michael Albinus

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