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From: Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Network Security Manager merge time?
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 13:34:53 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87h9xvavjm.fsf@lifelogs.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: m3tx1vhy17.fsf@stories.gnus.org

On Wed, 19 Nov 2014 18:59:16 +0100 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> wrote: 

LMI> Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:
>> I'd rather deprecate it in favor of `nsm-security-level', especially if
>> you're OK with the ability to set the level per host or subnet, and per
>> service. The `gnutls-verify-error' checks are all 'medium I think.

LMI> I can imagine that some people would rather leave all this up to
LMI> gnutls...

As far as user-level customization, I'd rather not have multiple
variables.  The checks will be done the same way, just based on
`network-security-level' instead of specific checkboxes like now.

>> (And I'd name or alias that NSM variable to `network-security-level'
>> because "nsm" means nothing to a new user, assuming NSM will be loaded
>> by default.)

LMI> Yes.

Cool!

>> (Oh, and I'd make `nsm-save-host-names' t by default, because your
>> worries about information leakage are in the 'high or above security
>> level IMO :)

LMI> Heh.  But ssh has the same paranoid defaults, I think.

I was going to say it doesn't for me on Ubuntu, but apparently in the
last N months+years the default has changed quietly. So now I have no
idea how many of my known_hosts are for virtual machines or other
disposable SSH servers. Grrrrrrreat.  Ah, here's why, from the
ssh_config man page:

     Note that the Debian openssh-client package sets several options as standard in /etc/ssh/ssh_config which are not the default in ssh(1):
...
           ·   HashKnownHosts yes
           ·   GSSAPIAuthentication yes

I'll be disabling that one...

Ted




  reply	other threads:[~2014-11-19 18:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-11-19 16:22 Network Security Manager merge time? Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-19 16:40 ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-11-19 16:53   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-19 17:30     ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-11-19 17:59       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-19 18:34         ` Ted Zlatanov [this message]
2014-11-19 20:00           ` Ivan Shmakov
2014-11-19 20:25             ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-11-19 21:41           ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-11-21 11:29             ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-25 14:20               ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-11-25 16:30                 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-25 16:46                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-11-25 17:08                     ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-25 18:20                       ` intrusive changes Ivan Shmakov
2014-11-30 13:51                         ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-30 15:12                           ` Ivan Shmakov
2014-11-30 18:07                             ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-02 10:03                               ` Ivan Shmakov
2014-12-02 13:50                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-19 18:22   ` Network Security Manager merge time? Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-19 20:46     ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-19 20:54       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-19 20:58         ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-19 21:18         ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-20  8:42           ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-20 16:16             ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-19 17:28 ` Robert Pluim
2014-11-19 17:50   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-19 19:51     ` Robert Pluim
2014-11-19 19:56       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-19 20:06         ` Robert Pluim
2014-11-19 20:20           ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-19 20:25             ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-19 20:26             ` Robert Pluim
2014-11-19 20:32               ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-20  8:00                 ` Robert Pluim
2014-11-20  8:43                   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-20  9:04           ` Robert Pluim
2014-11-20 10:39             ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-20 11:34               ` Robert Pluim

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