From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Contributing LLVM.org patches to gud.el Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 14:19:03 +0900 Message-ID: <87h9uml9h4.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: <87mw4rxkzv.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87y4oavxcy.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <871tlzpxvv.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1424063981 18840 80.91.229.3 (16 Feb 2015 05:19:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 05:19:41 +0000 (UTC) Cc: dak@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Feb 16 06:19:31 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YNE5j-0007Xe-Hr for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 16 Feb 2015 06:19:31 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37646 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YNE5i-00070n-Qn for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 16 Feb 2015 00:19:30 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:53070) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YNE5W-00070R-AF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 16 Feb 2015 00:19:19 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YNE5V-0000g5-G2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 16 Feb 2015 00:19:18 -0500 Original-Received: from shako.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp ([130.158.97.161]:36958) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YNE5P-0000eZ-Ve; Mon, 16 Feb 2015 00:19:12 -0500 Original-Received: from uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.99.156]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by shako.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 127301C38A0; Mon, 16 Feb 2015 14:19:04 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: by uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix, from userid 1000) id EDD781A26E3; Mon, 16 Feb 2015 14:19:03 +0900 (JST) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: VM undefined under 21.5 (beta34) "kale" acf1c26e3019 XEmacs Lucid (x86_64-unknown-linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 130.158.97.161 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:183142 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > You can't get any _less_ reflexive than saying "I want to study > this; don't rush me." Anyone who considers that "reflexive" has > his eyes and ears shut. We might even wonder if he is being > reflexive. I've been watching you hold up initiatives in Emacs and other free software projects while you study the issues for 20 years now. It's hardly reflexive to say *now* that your behavior looks reflexive. And yes, "I want to study this" *can be*, and *often is*, a reflexive response to an unpleasant turn of events. That's part of what is meant by "paralysis by analysis", and by "micromanagement". Does this particular case involve hazards that require such study? Pretty clearly I'm not the only person who thinks the answer is "no". A clearly non-reflexive response would be "Yet another case where I have to decide something that's a rather small matter in itself. Maybe it's time to think about an alternative decision-making process. Or better education of the troops, so that they can make these decisions well enough without me, and I can concentrate on developing strategies that *effectively* address too-permissive licensing threats to GNU, and on lobbying that requires someone of my stature in the movement."