Is it possible to use another GUI client and connect it to Emacs?

Is it possible to use another GUI client and connect it to Emacs?

[Tu, Do]

For example, is it possible for me to write a package that connects Emacs from Firefox and exchange messages, so that I can manipulate texts and Firefox layout directly from headless Emacs server?

Firefox is just an example. In general, I want to create a client that sends messages to Emacs daemon and receive back messages that tell my client how to manipulate my GUI objects and my client then starts handling based on the instructions. Currently, how easy it is to implement something like that?

Re: Is it possible to use another GUI client and connect it to Emacs?

[Xavier Maillard]

Hi,

Tu, Do <solidius4747@gmail.com> writes:

> For example, is it possible for me to write a package that connects
> Emacs from Firefox and exchange messages, so that I can manipulate
> texts and Firefox layout directly from headless Emacs server?

Your GNU emacs has been built with dbus support, that should be
pretty simple, I guess.

Regards
-- Xavier.

Re: Is it possible to use another GUI client and connect it to Emacs?

[Jacob Gerlach]

On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 12:58 AM, Tu, Do <solidius4747@gmail.com> wrote:
> For example, is it possible for me to write a package that connects Emacs from Firefox and
> exchange messages, so that I can manipulate texts and Firefox layout directly from headless
>  Emacs server?

Are you talking about controlling Firefox or just using emacs to edit
text fields?

I believe the latter has been done for both Firefox [1] and Chrome [2].

Regards,
Jake

[1] https://aloiroberto.wordpress.com/2010/01/23/how-to-integrate-firefox-and-emacs/
[2] http://wikemacs.org/wiki/Edit_with_Emacs

Re: Is it possible to use another GUI client and connect it to Emacs?

[Stefan Monnier]

> For example, is it possible for me to write a package that connects Emacs
> from Firefox and exchange messages, so that I can manipulate texts and
> Firefox layout directly from headless Emacs server?

Of course.  E.g. you can run "emacsclient --eval <exp>" and it will
execute that expression and return the value.

Or you can setup a TCP connection.

Or you can use dbus.

Not sure what will turn out to be easier from Firefox,


        Stefan

Re: Is it possible to use another GUI client and connect it to Emacs?

[Thierry Volpiatto]

Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:

>> For example, is it possible for me to write a package that connects Emacs
>> from Firefox and exchange messages, so that I can manipulate texts and
>> Firefox layout directly from headless Emacs server?
>
> Of course.  E.g. you can run "emacsclient --eval <exp>" and it will
> execute that expression and return the value.

The problem is how to call emacsclient from firefox.
You have for this to setup a new protocol in firefox, which is not
allowed by firefox, you can workaround this by creating yourself the new
protocol with this small library:

https://github.com/thierryvolpiatto/firefox-protocol

You can then use a bookmarklet to call your script using emacsclient.

I actually use this to show my firefox bookmark list in emacs and to
bookmark web pages in regular emacs bookmarks.

Hope that help.

-- 
Thierry
Get my Gnupg key:
gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys 59F29997 

Re: Is it possible to use another GUI client and connect it to Emacs?

[Pascal J. Bourguignon]

"Tu, Do" <solidius4747@gmail.com> writes:

> For example, is it possible for me to write a package that connects
> Emacs from Firefox and exchange messages, so that I can manipulate
> texts and Firefox layout directly from headless Emacs server?
>
> Firefox is just an example. In general, I want to create a client that
> sends messages to Emacs daemon and receive back messages that tell my
> client how to manipulate my GUI objects and my client then starts
> handling based on the instructions. Currently, how easy it is to
> implement something like that?


With X11, it is possible to create a X window inside another X window,
even if it doesn't belong to the same process.

Therefore, it would be possible to have emacs create an emacs frame
inside another program X window.

Unfortunately, the API to do that is not exported at the elisp level.  A
patch to emacs would be required, and of course, the hosting application
would have to be modified to invoke emacs for its text editing areas.


X11 is under-exploited.

-- 
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dog. The man will be there to feed the dog. The dog will be there to
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Re: Is it possible to use another GUI client and connect it to Emacs?

[Tu, Do]

Thanks everyone for your hints. It's sufficient for me.

Re: Is it possible to use another GUI client and connect it to Emacs?

[Phillip Lord]

"Tu, Do" <solidius4747@gmail.com> writes:

> For example, is it possible for me to write a package that connects Emacs from
> Firefox and exchange messages, so that I can manipulate texts and Firefox
> layout directly from headless Emacs server?

Well, the general way to let anything accept connections from firefox,
and have the messages affect the layout of firefox is to use the HTTP.
So, have your Emacs server run elnode or the web-server package and you
are away.

Another option would be to use one of the JS repls that are around. The
REPL runs on the browser but displays in Emacs.

Phil