From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Another others for maintainer? Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2015 10:27:30 +0200 Message-ID: <87h9lmgd1p.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1445329677 29085 80.91.229.3 (20 Oct 2015 08:27:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2015 08:27:57 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Oct 20 10:27:56 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZoSGs-0006Kn-9T for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 20 Oct 2015 10:27:50 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44488 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZoSGr-0001N3-JR for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 20 Oct 2015 04:27:49 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:51933) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZoSGb-0001Mf-6r for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 20 Oct 2015 04:27:34 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZoSGa-0003ud-2W for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 20 Oct 2015 04:27:33 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:60158) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZoSGZ-0003uX-Pr for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 20 Oct 2015 04:27:31 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45744 helo=lola) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1ZoSGZ-00068h-9F for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 20 Oct 2015 04:27:31 -0400 Original-Received: by lola (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 95758DF44D; Tue, 20 Oct 2015 10:27:30 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: (John Wiegley's message of "Tue, 20 Oct 2015 00:59:36 -0700") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:192163 Archived-At: "John Wiegley" writes: > Since the earlier thread on "New maintainer" turned into a massive > discussion, it may have stifled the opportunity for others to > volunteer as the new Emacs maintainer. > > My own qualifications are by no means ideal. First and foremost, there > is a potential for friction with the FSF; and second, I may not have > the time to give this position the attention it deserves. > > So if anyone else would like to drive Emacs forward into the future, > please speak up! We need more diverse options if we are to make a good > choice. Like with our views about how multiple maintainers can arrive at a single decision, it appears to me like the thrust of this discussion was not as much "making a good choice" but "converging to a good choice": the choices after the discussion are different because the people after the discussion are different. To me this was mostly about "can we make ends meet?" and I tried putting the spotlight on those ends so that we deal with this realistically and don't set up ourselves for obvious failure. And the answer appears to me "it's definitely worth trying". Not more, not less. I see enough willingness on all sides to make this work that I don't see much of a point in not trying it. Of course, I cannot speak for anyone but myself here. -- David Kastrup