From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Uwe Brauer Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: emacs hebrew script bidi nikud rendering bugs Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2015 18:32:05 +0000 Message-ID: <87h9kxwti2.fsf@mat.ucm.es> References: <120C7CD3-F573-4128-8B57-486423DB6E39@fastmail.fm> <87si4iywmd.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <83vb9eoxcf.fsf@gnu.org> <87oaf5zplu.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <834mgxpu48.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1446921162 24247 80.91.229.3 (7 Nov 2015 18:32:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2015 18:32:42 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Nov 07 19:32:34 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Zv8Hv-00081Y-Fd for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 07 Nov 2015 19:32:31 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44904 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zv8Hu-0000U0-Tc for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 07 Nov 2015 13:32:30 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:50834) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zv8Hh-0000Th-IK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Nov 2015 13:32:18 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zv8He-0004ws-CL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Nov 2015 13:32:17 -0500 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:33542) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zv8He-0004vq-56 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Nov 2015 13:32:14 -0500 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Zv8Ha-0007dO-P8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Nov 2015 19:32:10 +0100 Original-Received: from 171.pool85-55-19.dynamic.orange.es ([85.55.19.171]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 07 Nov 2015 19:32:10 +0100 Original-Received: from oub by 171.pool85-55-19.dynamic.orange.es with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 07 Nov 2015 19:32:10 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Lines: 79 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 171.pool85-55-19.dynamic.orange.es Mail-Copies-To: never User-Agent: Gnus/5.13001 (Ma Gnus v0.10) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:+LyrSqTScjKcADpz736tzz5KBWI= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:193556 Archived-At: > The default font is not what matters. You should find out which > font(s) is/are used to display the problematic character combinations. > Emacs cannot compose characters that are displayed by different fonts. > Use "C-u C-x =" to show the font for each character. Out of curiosity, are all niqqud displayed correctly in your setting? - First of all the ones which work for example aleph+qamats: I obtain ,---- | | position: 431 of 708 (61%), column: 12 | character: א‎ (displayed as א‎) (codepoint 1488, #o2720, #x5d0) | preferred charset: unicode (Unicode (ISO10646)) | code point in charset: 0x05D0 | script: hebrew | syntax: w which means: word | category: .:Base, R:Right-to-left (strong) | to input: type "C-x 8 RET 5d0" or "C-x 8 RET HEBREW LETTER ALEF" | buffer code: #xD7 #x90 | file code: #xD7 #x90 (encoded by coding system utf-8-unix) | display: composed to form "אָ" (see below) | | Composed with the following character(s) "ָ" using this font: | xft:-unknown-DejaVu Sans-normal-normal-normal-*-19-*-*-*-*-0-iso10646-1 | by these glyphs: | [0 1 64303 4765 13 2 11 10 3 nil] | | Character code properties: customize what to show | name: HEBREW LETTER ALEF | general-category: Lo (Letter, Other) | decomposition: (1488) ('א') | | There are text properties here: | fontified t `---- - now to aleph+qubuts where qubuts is not displayed directly under the aleph. Cursor on the aleph ,---- | | position: 464 of 708 (65%), column: 12 | character: א‎ (displayed as א‎) (codepoint 1488, #o2720, #x5d0) | preferred charset: unicode (Unicode (ISO10646)) | code point in charset: 0x05D0 | script: hebrew | syntax: w which means: word | category: .:Base, R:Right-to-left (strong) | to input: type "C-x 8 RET 5d0" or "C-x 8 RET HEBREW LETTER ALEF" | buffer code: #xD7 #x90 | file code: #xD7 #x90 (encoded by coding system utf-8-unix) | display: composed to form "אֻ" (see below) | | Composed with the following character(s) "ֻ" using this font: | xft:-unknown-DejaVu Sans-normal-normal-normal-*-19-*-*-*-*-0-iso10646-1 | by these glyphs: | [0 1 1488 1316 13 2 11 10 0 nil] | [0 1 1467 1305 0 2 11 -2 5 nil] | | Character code properties: customize what to show | name: HEBREW LETTER ALEF | general-category: Lo (Letter, Other) | decomposition: (1488) ('א') | | There are text properties here: | fontified t | | [back] `---- I fail to see the difference.