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From: Nicolas Petton <nicolas@petton.fr>
To: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>, Random832 <random832@fastmail.com>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: First draft of the Emacs website
Date: Wed, 02 Dec 2015 16:42:05 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87h9k0svqq.fsf@petton.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <878u5cswx2.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org>

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David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org> writes:

> The browser is in control of the client's computing resources,
> compositing managing, window rendition, realtime.  If it (or the user
> settings controlling it) or the page description language does not
> consider animating changes a good idea, the web page author is not
> really in a position to know better.

> The user has nothing to gain from every web page inventing its own
> human-computer interface.

Oh my gosh, the entire www has been wrong all this time!

On a more serious note, animations have been well defined in the CSS
standard for years[1], as well as through very common JS libraries[2],
SVG animations[3], the HTML Canvas, etc.

All of these are part of the web stack of every graphical web browser
out there, I didn't invent anything here.

> The whole point of HTML is to package content in a way where the
> rendition is matched to the platform's capabilities.

Come on, you very well know that HTML is about the content. Formatting,
appearance, animations and such should be handled in CSS, JS, etc.

Cheers,
Nico

[1] http://www.w3.org/TR/css3-transitions/
[2] http://api.jquery.com/animate/
[3] http://www.w3.org/TR/SVG/animate.html

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-12-02 15:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 113+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-12-02 12:47 First draft of the Emacs website H.Tsurumoto
2015-12-02 13:07 ` David Kastrup
2015-12-02 14:55   ` Random832
2015-12-02 15:16     ` David Kastrup
2015-12-02 15:39       ` Drew Adams
2015-12-02 15:42       ` Nicolas Petton [this message]
2015-12-02 15:53         ` David Kastrup
2015-12-02 16:07           ` Nicolas Petton
2015-12-02 15:55         ` Yuri Khan
2015-12-02 15:57           ` Nicolas Petton
2015-12-02 16:05             ` David Kastrup
2015-12-02 16:07             ` Yuri Khan
2015-12-02 16:08           ` Random832
2015-12-03  6:22         ` Richard Stallman
2015-12-03  9:29           ` Nicolas Petton
2015-12-03  9:59             ` Alexis
2015-12-03 10:51               ` Nicolas Petton
2015-12-04  5:22                 ` Richard Stallman
2015-12-04  9:07                   ` Nicolas Petton
2015-12-04  5:22             ` Richard Stallman
2015-12-04  9:36               ` Nicolas Petton
2015-12-03  6:21   ` Richard Stallman
2015-12-02 14:14 ` Nicolas Petton
2015-12-02 16:39   ` David Engster
2015-12-04 12:32 ` New update of the Emacs website (was Re: First draft of the Emacs website) Nicolas Petton
2015-12-04 13:21   ` Artur Malabarba
2015-12-04 16:17   ` Rasmus
2015-12-05  0:31   ` Xue Fuqiao
2015-12-10 19:55   ` Christopher Allan Webber
2015-12-10 20:54     ` Karl Fogel
2015-12-10 21:51     ` Nicolas Petton
2015-12-11  7:09     ` Richard Stallman
2015-12-11 13:15       ` H.Tsurumoto
2015-12-12  5:01         ` Richard Stallman
2015-12-12  5:13           ` Random832
2015-12-13  6:52             ` Richard Stallman
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2015-11-28 23:29 First draft of the Emacs website Nicolas Petton
2015-11-28 23:51 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2015-11-29  0:03 ` Daniel Pimentel
2015-11-29  1:02 ` Xue Fuqiao
2015-11-29  1:26   ` Nicolas Petton
2015-11-29  2:19     ` Alex Dunn
2015-11-29  3:31       ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2015-11-29  5:42         ` Random832
2015-11-29  8:15           ` David Caldwell
2015-11-29 14:25             ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-11-30  0:02     ` Xue Fuqiao
2015-11-29  8:06 ` Przemysław Wojnowski
2015-11-29 10:27   ` Zack Piper
2015-11-29 12:36     ` Rasmus
2015-11-29 12:58       ` Nicolas Petton
2015-11-29 14:00       ` Marcin Borkowski
2015-11-29 10:15 ` David Engster
2015-11-29 12:56   ` Nicolas Petton
2015-11-29 15:17 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-11-29 19:38   ` Nicolas Petton
2015-11-29 22:01     ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-11-29 22:11       ` Nicolas Petton
2015-11-29 16:21 ` Christopher Allan Webber
2015-11-29 19:39   ` Nicolas Petton
2015-11-29 21:45 ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-29 22:11   ` Nicolas Petton
2015-11-30  0:04     ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-30  1:29       ` Alex Dunn
2015-11-30  9:43         ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-30 10:33           ` Dani Moncayo
2015-11-30 15:22             ` Drew Adams
2015-11-30 16:06   ` Nicolas Petton
2015-11-30 16:16     ` Yuri Khan
2015-11-30 16:23       ` Nicolas Petton
2015-12-01 14:37     ` Richard Stallman
2015-12-01 14:56       ` Nicolas Petton
2015-11-30 19:48 ` Milan Zamazal
2015-12-02 16:45   ` Drew Adams
2015-12-02 17:22     ` Nicolas Petton
2015-12-02 16:36 ` Random832
2015-12-02 17:12   ` Nicolas Petton
2015-12-02 18:07     ` Yuri Khan
2015-12-02 18:26       ` Nicolas Petton
2015-12-02 18:29       ` Nicolas Petton
2015-12-02 18:30         ` Yuri Khan
2015-12-02 23:47   ` Xue Fuqiao
2015-12-04  3:57     ` Random832
2015-12-05  0:19       ` Richard Stallman
2015-12-03 13:58 ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2015-12-03 22:17   ` John Yates
2015-12-03 22:30     ` Nicolas Petton
2015-12-03 22:57     ` Drew Adams
2015-12-03 23:26       ` John Yates
2015-12-04  0:58         ` Drew Adams
2015-12-08 13:05           ` Valentijn
2015-12-08 15:09             ` Drew Adams
2015-12-08 15:21               ` Spencer Boucher
2015-12-08 16:08                 ` David Kastrup
2015-12-08 20:52                 ` Marcin Borkowski
2015-12-08 21:51                   ` Drew Adams
2015-12-08 21:58                     ` Drew Adams
2015-12-09 21:00                     ` Marcin Borkowski
2015-12-10  5:28                     ` Richard Stallman
2015-12-10  9:10                       ` David Kastrup
2015-12-10  5:27                   ` Richard Stallman
2015-12-09  6:06                 ` Richard Stallman
2015-12-04  6:06         ` David Kastrup
2015-12-04  9:37           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-04  9:42             ` David Kastrup
2015-12-04 10:11               ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-04 10:42                 ` Nicolas Petton
2015-12-04 10:44                 ` David Kastrup
2015-12-04 11:03                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-04 22:26                   ` Paul Eggert
2015-12-04 22:30                     ` David Kastrup
2015-12-04  8:42         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-03 23:59     ` Clément Pit--Claudel

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