From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ingo Lohmar Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#22595: 25.1.50; Wishlist: There should be a way to list timers Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2016 15:10:07 +0100 Message-ID: <87h9hiht4w.fsf@acer.localhost.com> References: <87oabrybgk.fsf@gnus.org> <83egcnqge3.fsf@gnu.org> <87k2mekaye.fsf@gnus.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1455027094 4844 80.91.229.3 (9 Feb 2016 14:11:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2016 14:11:34 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 22595@debbugs.gnu.org To: Lars Ingebrigtsen , Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Feb 09 15:11:21 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aT90i-0002kL-Ia for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 09 Feb 2016 15:11:20 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56448 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aT90c-0002cI-Ew for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 09 Feb 2016 09:11:14 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:53353) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aT90V-0002YB-9J for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Feb 2016 09:11:11 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aT90Q-0000Ud-9v for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Feb 2016 09:11:07 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:51902) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aT90Q-0000UZ-6C for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Feb 2016 09:11:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aT90Q-0004X5-3M for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Feb 2016 09:11:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Ingo Lohmar Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2016 14:11:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 22595 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: fixed Original-Received: via spool by 22595-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B22595.145502701617375 (code B ref 22595); Tue, 09 Feb 2016 14:11:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 22595) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Feb 2016 14:10:16 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:32810 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aT8zg-0004WB-HH for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 09 Feb 2016 09:10:16 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-wm0-f47.google.com ([74.125.82.47]:37595) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aT8zf-0004Vy-KP for 22595@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 09 Feb 2016 09:10:15 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-wm0-f47.google.com with SMTP id g62so25015147wme.0 for <22595@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 09 Feb 2016 06:10:15 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:user-agent:date :message-id:mime-version:content-type; bh=nwMbunl+rh1qCygC0zyIEc9HNRKX5ldRC3GsDxX6OX8=; b=BqN4gzLFQv0rYRYhXgSkaoo4R+z+VgN/pONo6SWHbfuwG3WJNOC2beuLUXTBM5leDx gH1gIa9L7ZZFb8Ww2WiIw9cy63CsJyUedBfybqXIBj/F2AVwhLS/LNEk/nN8DKW/5jpf kYvaeH1ZID9Mfp9S3SoqFeH2UiIqcN2+LTGXQIccgIGsHvIQv0n8KdWqDvkFu1fFuRD0 qU3MCYh6RyD3+CuFws60/zCbFwdItdXbu9PYm1bIDFSDL2pEwlD7cw45+9cKEAW0CYIu UzttXvbj5ZeCyQBi9h07S7QPRrBDMSsBS9IExNXQpZ5o8HrcIfwPFQDi0fbk2mNZGE8C jdog== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references :user-agent:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type; bh=nwMbunl+rh1qCygC0zyIEc9HNRKX5ldRC3GsDxX6OX8=; b=XrYQAyYl02JKGsbDgFSajTMIcMX86mfSGAuHwF8+qbhG1wZjjY9CyNR1J8cL6xgslh aALq+QVAGOamgL4Mk1g6YwfYExPVsywhXB6F5Whx6yID7juG9kSGT0JIBF0/0V2MyIDU DgHMMKV+2Z1yCGJAEclnephKKSzcYhYHacBhmc9kqXk+03daW/jiUVB6QaHIGE23DIPv 7XcfsCdoI0wtTs+sSj8AfyeHePTJ/rbOolQv2sRY09AE/MhWQcf+vl6jv0skcwEerQ86 BT+4V5JNQeonZHmS7f4wOsovbBAXHMm900kvbfd6QRh9O5GfWq/z5np0XJ+J/i36eP4k W3hA== X-Gm-Message-State: AG10YOSVWwBLKL3mzugCXtkhinqDU0pFMi20/GruSHJmLF5F0hSuL1ApfvvjxrtLuobzpg== X-Received: by 10.28.172.193 with SMTP id v184mr5544746wme.94.1455027009918; Tue, 09 Feb 2016 06:10:09 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from localhost (xdsl-195-14-207-244.netcologne.de. [195.14.207.244]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id gb9sm34856968wjb.26.2016.02.09.06.10.08 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 09 Feb 2016 06:10:08 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <87k2mekaye.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Notmuch/0.20.2+113~g6332e6e (http://notmuchmail.org) Emacs/25.0.50.6 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:112798 Archived-At: On Tue, Feb 09 2016 11:02 (+1100), Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: > Eli Zaretskii writes: > >>> When working with timers, it's very easy to get into a situation where >>> you've started a timer, but you don't have the timer object handy. It >>> would be very nice if we had a command that would list all timers >> >> Maybe I'm missing something here, but the two lists timer-list and >> timer-idle-list already provide you with the list you wanted. No? > > Sure, the lists are there, but there isn't a user interface to list them > and kill them. Why is this a good idea at all? Timers are always an implementation detail, not a user-level feature, as far as I am concerned. We neither have a UI for working with all overlays or text properties of a buffer, have we?