From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#1150: 23.0.60; Ibuffer's menubar menu should be named Ibuffer, not View Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2016 19:06:48 +0200 Message-ID: <87h9engevr.fsf@gnus.org> References: <002901c92c8b$31131420$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> <000001c92c8d$b7cb61a0$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> <87lh3zgf62.fsf@gnus.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1461776867 31872 80.91.229.3 (27 Apr 2016 17:07:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2016 17:07:47 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 1150@debbugs.gnu.org To: "Drew Adams" Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Apr 27 19:07:35 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1avSw3-00072Z-9b for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 27 Apr 2016 19:07:35 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44354 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1avSw2-0007wa-O6 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 27 Apr 2016 13:07:34 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:58248) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1avSve-0007Gx-3J for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 27 Apr 2016 13:07:14 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1avSvZ-0007Sd-5T for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 27 Apr 2016 13:07:10 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:38018) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1avSvW-0007SH-Ql for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 27 Apr 2016 13:07:05 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1avSvW-0002Rk-H8 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 27 Apr 2016 13:07:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2016 17:07:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 1150 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 1150-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B1150.14617768209396 (code B ref 1150); Wed, 27 Apr 2016 17:07:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 1150) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Apr 2016 17:07:00 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50355 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1avSvQ-0002RP-Qy for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 27 Apr 2016 13:07:00 -0400 Original-Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:46425) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1avSvM-0002RF-Nt for 1150@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 27 Apr 2016 13:06:56 -0400 Original-Received: from cm-84.215.1.64.getinternet.no ([84.215.1.64] helo=mouse) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1avSvI-00008k-GM; Wed, 27 Apr 2016 19:06:52 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87lh3zgf62.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Wed, 27 Apr 2016 19:00:37 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:116926 Archived-At: Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > "Drew Adams" writes: > >> However, the `View' menu is still inappropriately named - it includes things >> that have nothing to do with viewing (`Diff with file', `Toggle Auto Mode', >> `Customize Ibuffer', `Filter', `Filter Groups'). It seems to be a catch-all - an >> `Ibuffer' menu for things that don't fit in `Operate' or `Mark'. And menu >> `Operate' includes some viewing menu items. >> >> I don't have a better name in mind than `View'. Instead, I'd suggest perhaps >> reorganizing the menus. The organization of the Dired menus is superior and >> might serve as a partial model. > > Yes, the organisation doesn't seem ideal. I think the "diff" should go > to "Operate", at least. I don't mind the filter things in the "View" > menu -- they do alter what you're viewing... > > Customize/toggle don't seem to belong in any of the existing menus. Actually, the "toggle auto mode" does kinda belong in the "View" menu, as long as we consider that menu to be both about viewing the buffers, and organising the ibuffer buffer itself. So I'd suggest just moving the "diff" to "Operate" and removing the customisation menu item. I think that's a pretty unusual item to have in the menu? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no