From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord)
To: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Subject: Re: use-package
Date: Tue, 10 May 2016 11:13:07 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87h9e6tgws.fsf@russet.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e0b3927f-9e76-4b6b-8e21-678ad67b8dc5@default> (Drew Adams's message of "Thu, 5 May 2016 07:00:49 -0700 (PDT)")
Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com> writes:
>> Currently my mode lighter is
>>
>> Message pab MML yas Helm Abbrev Fill Narrow
>>
>> pab == pabbrev is my own abbrev mode, but diminished
>> MML == is attachement
>> yas == yasnippet diminished
>> Helm == Completion
>> Abbrev == Another abbrev expansion
>> Fill == auto fill.
>> Narrow == is narrowing
>>
>> Of these, pab is global, so why show it?
>
> Why might a user want to show the lighter for a global minor
> mode? Some minor modes you will turn on and off, perhaps
> even frequently. For some of those you might well want to
> know whether it is on or off.
>
> This is no different than for a local minor mode, such as
> overwrite mode. You might well want to know whether a
> particular mode is on.
>
> It can depend on the mode and on the user. There is no
> one-size-fits-all, IMHO. And that is true of global modes
> as well as local ones.
>
>> Only "Fill" tells me anything useful, since I turn this on and off in
>> the same buffer, and "Message", since knowing the mode is good.
>
> What's useful to see depends on the user and on the context.
> That's really the point, IMO.
>
> A library can of course choose not to have a lighter for some
> mode (local or global). But in the end, users too need to be
> able to easily adjust things to suit their tastes and needs.
At the moment, though, I think developers add a lighter because it's
just the way that things are done. Perhaps the default advice should be
"do not add a lighter to your mode, unless it's useful".
Phil
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Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-05-02 17:07 use-package Uwe Brauer
2016-05-02 18:47 ` use-package Kaushal Modi
2016-05-03 10:47 ` use-package Uwe Brauer
2016-05-03 14:01 ` use-package Kaushal Modi
2016-05-03 22:28 ` use-package Stefan Monnier
2016-05-04 3:33 ` use-package Kaushal Modi
2016-05-04 12:09 ` use-package Stefan Monnier
2016-05-04 16:22 ` use-package Phillip Lord
2016-05-04 16:44 ` use-package Drew Adams
2016-05-05 13:34 ` use-package Phillip Lord
2016-05-05 14:00 ` use-package Drew Adams
2016-05-05 15:56 ` use-package Kaushal Modi
2016-05-05 16:12 ` use-package Drew Adams
2016-05-10 9:20 ` use-package Phillip Lord
2016-05-10 9:18 ` use-package Phillip Lord
2016-05-11 11:42 ` use-package Kaushal Modi
2016-05-12 21:04 ` use-package Phillip Lord
2016-05-13 11:56 ` use-package Stefan Monnier
2016-05-14 22:27 ` use-package Phillip Lord
2016-05-15 3:22 ` use-package Stefan Monnier
2016-05-13 15:38 ` use-package Drew Adams
2016-05-16 15:16 ` use-package Phillip Lord
2016-05-16 16:49 ` use-package Drew Adams
[not found] ` <mailman.2761.1463153947.7477.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2016-05-14 7:37 ` use-package Rusi
2016-05-10 9:13 ` Phillip Lord [this message]
2016-05-05 9:51 ` use-package Uwe Brauer
2016-05-05 13:38 ` use-package Phillip Lord
2016-05-03 22:21 ` use-package Stefan Monnier
2016-05-05 10:15 ` use-package Uwe Brauer
2016-05-05 23:41 ` use-package Stefan Monnier
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