From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dmitry Alexandrov <321942@gmail.com> Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Reply to list [was: Different key maps in different dired buffers] Date: Sun, 05 Jun 2016 14:00:48 +0300 Message-ID: <87h9d7kihr.fsf@quux> References: <57473688.4020503@gmail.com> <20160527070959.GB27615@tuxteam.de> <83mvnc0vze.fsf@gnu.org> <83pos7z6gv.fsf@gnu.org> <86zir1n347.fsf@student.uu.se> <8660tpmztw.fsf@student.uu.se> <86d1nwls3t.fsf@student.uu.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1465124489 8709 80.91.229.3 (5 Jun 2016 11:01:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 11:01:29 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jun 05 13:01:22 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1b9Vo1-0003yh-G2 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 05 Jun 2016 13:01:21 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36519 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1b9Vnx-0004Uh-I8 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 05 Jun 2016 07:01:17 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:60771) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <321942@gmail.com>) id 1b9VnY-0004Q5-VN for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Jun 2016 07:00:53 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <321942@gmail.com>) id 1b9VnT-0006ni-MH for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Jun 2016 07:00:51 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-lf0-x231.google.com ([2a00:1450:4010:c07::231]:34734) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <321942@gmail.com>) id 1b9VnT-0006ne-De for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Jun 2016 07:00:47 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-lf0-x231.google.com with SMTP id s186so13798036lfs.1 for ; Sun, 05 Jun 2016 04:00:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent :mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=FDFZduIxQr8XLRBQMMTd6uQ7+qAlUKagNSDELoMAThk=; b=LBKf6iQI+Pms7bY3Q3OB06E8RFU5C8UIUcVVnGzUxOuWXc6oucyl10RK9PrFWAweVM pSplhdqCVtwGvsP14iabhlLHNu7huTTLzn2WQ2V5wKUD9wwyT9IIM9bzEGFvrpLmK0cw 1DNKuR/2FchkcoLrP5GFeaQu+l7ATujAJket8sBoddgPXlMCkshlhv5w079p3XeO0ZVt ZHR5fHwIlG1Kmp5cbjtH35RAqo6VSEeIGd+XoEY86Nz3gB76Hn+LfnBKMLPKKiT//MCR EDjR/sex6xKflD/yeWOdsUCagZfUdwF5rGDozE1bhDIa1LRj92n+7U6DT4QtvoWAOeoZ O9eA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:subject:references:date:in-reply-to :message-id:user-agent:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=FDFZduIxQr8XLRBQMMTd6uQ7+qAlUKagNSDELoMAThk=; b=FuMSkU9jfQlAvSbRTwBSmgfJYMAC3Q0chyOAJCRH7U/2QtQMZXHOFCrygnoUgAUTTv X+1aaQzgn15LaTeAvZZRxRbnvBzsoZrmrUgau/h8PgrIpcGNB6GT0sUjsGw4uA71Q0IK hsPsdbFspquAkczJzu6jvxDgMrmfmZ2R6HiT7JsoIwRKTTro+VnI2Tp+tnQJ6gQRSW3v jHyA39wVdS8YUFp3GQ2/yxBOh3hl5vFeLY5KttYevkyPjfBhAgVlB4M0TDSmqz4em+NX GL2wH1hrVa0jUtEAGI/X8d1dCaIiBWPUZ59DuLZZFqGOnntDU5HpwsUrMJsN8cA3Hz1p Q1+g== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tL2p7lCg+WaJiPk1pUvNq9n2nGmbQ4VQtfHiUIqgncoSLmYiSwFcuQXM5Ukai+icg== X-Received: by 10.46.1.41 with SMTP id 41mr641427ljb.49.1465124446370; Sun, 05 Jun 2016 04:00:46 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from asus.local ([178.218.27.218]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id g70sm1223485ljg.43.2016.06.05.04.00.45 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 05 Jun 2016 04:00:45 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <86d1nwls3t.fsf@student.uu.se> (Emanuel Berg's message of "Sat, 04 Jun 2016 20:35:34 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:4010:c07::231 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:110313 Archived-At: Emanuel Berg writes: >> By the way, so far as we are discussing >> techniques of using mailing lists, let me >> turn your attention, that your messages are >> systematically appear in ‘gmane.emacs.help’ >> as replies to non-existent messages, thus >> breaking the tree. That might be some bug of >> Gmane, of course, however the archive of GNU >> Mailman [0] shares this views. > > No, that was the case with the "Gnus IMAP > groups appear twice" issue, right? > Or does it happen all the time? >From time to time, but quite often. > For example, does it happen now? Yes, it actually does. You could check it by yourself with a help of Gmane’s web-interface [0], where this message is shown on the top level (not belonging to any thread); or GNU Mailman archive [1], which seems to be smarter as it can associate this message with the right thread, but shows ‘Message not available’ as its parent; or (I believe) with a fresh Gnus instance [3]. [0] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help [1] https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-gnu-emacs/2016-06/threads.html [2] $ HOME='/tmp' NNTPSERVER='news.gmane.org' emacs --eval '(gnus)'