all messages for Emacs-related lists mirrored at yhetil.org
 help / color / mirror / code / Atom feed
From: Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: tramp-compat-funcall -> compat-funcall?
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2016 16:18:17 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87h997u1rq.fsf@lifelogs.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: jwveg4cdsv2.fsf-monnier+gmane.emacs.devel@gnu.org

On Thu, 22 Sep 2016 08:31:22 -0400 Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> wrote: 

SM> I think hiding this behind (tramp-)compat-funcall would be better
SM> avoided (just like using with-no-warnings should be avoided whenever
SM> possible).

SM> IOW, if there's a kind of situation that recurs often enough to warrant
SM> something like (tramp-)compat-funcall you should report this as a bug.

The use case, I think, is "to provide compatibility with older Emacsen,
I need a convenient way to call a function softly without compiler
warnings if it doesn't exist." I think, based on the two examples I gave
(`gnus-funcall-no-warning' was the other instance), that it's not an
uncommon need, and it's better to provide it in a core facility than ask
package maintainers to implement it.

If the use case is misguided, then what's the right way to call
functions that are missing in 25.1 but are needed in 24.3 for example?
Do we need a layered cond-like funcall instead, which tries several
invocations (not necessarily with the same arguments) until one
succeeds? In either case, the compiler warnings seem better silenced
than active, unless none of the cases succeed.

Ted




  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-09-22 20:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-09-22 11:04 tramp-compat-funcall -> compat-funcall? Ted Zlatanov
2016-09-22 12:31 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-09-22 13:22   ` Michael Albinus
2016-09-22 17:46     ` Stefan Monnier
2016-09-22 17:54       ` Michael Albinus
2016-09-22 18:23         ` Stefan Monnier
2016-09-22 20:18   ` Ted Zlatanov [this message]
2016-09-23 15:49     ` Stefan Monnier
2016-09-24  6:54       ` Michael Albinus
2016-09-24 13:57         ` Stefan Monnier
2016-09-24 15:39           ` Michael Albinus
2016-09-24 18:40             ` Stefan Monnier
2016-09-25 11:44               ` Michael Albinus
2016-09-25 14:00                 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-09-25 17:23                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2016-09-24 22:42           ` Ted Zlatanov
2016-09-25 14:17             ` Stefan Monnier

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=87h997u1rq.fsf@lifelogs.com \
    --to=tzz@lifelogs.com \
    --cc=emacs-devel@gnu.org \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
Code repositories for project(s) associated with this external index

	https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git
	https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs/org-mode.git

This is an external index of several public inboxes,
see mirroring instructions on how to clone and mirror
all data and code used by this external index.