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From: Mark Oteiza <mvoteiza@udel.edu>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: On removing some obsolete code from subr and core
Date: Sun, 06 Nov 2016 12:05:43 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87h97k8ro8.fsf@udel.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvy40xu8ix.fsf-monnier+gmane.emacs.devel@gnu.org> (Stefan Monnier's message of "Sat, 05 Nov 2016 13:50:48 -0400")


Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:
>> easy.  But what do we do with the default-FOO variables, once the
>> machinery for their generation is removed?
>
> BTW, the default-FOO vars were only deprecated in Emacs-23, not
> Emacs-22, so maybe they can wait a little longer.  Actually I think most
> of them can be safely dropped (e.g. because they've never been used),
> but some have been used fairly commonly and should stick around a bit
> longer.  Most obvious ones: default-major-mode and default-tab-width.

Do you mean in 3rd party packages?  Because AFAICT no use of them is
left in Emacs.

For the record, from my search, what remains is:
- a comment in fileio.c on default-buffer-file-coding-system
- a mention in edebug.el of default-cursor-in-non-selected-windows

and I think I only removed one default-foo in the recent 2c6920a

>> Why do we need to remove buffer_defaults?  Once it is not exposed to
>> Lisp as variables, what's the harm?
>
> AFAIK buffer_defaults is indeed still very much needed for
> (default-value major-mode), (setq-default major-mode ...) and same for
> all other variables which have their own field in the struct buffer.

Oops, thanks.

> OTOH, once all the DEFVAR_BUFFER_DEFAULTS are removed, we can remove the
> hack in store_symval_forwarding.

P.S. Please Cc: me



  reply	other threads:[~2016-11-06 17:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-11-04 16:59 On removing some obsolete code from subr and core Mark Oteiza
2016-11-05  8:24 ` John Wiegley
2016-11-05  8:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-11-05 13:50   ` Mark Oteiza
2016-11-05 17:59     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-11-06 16:58       ` Mark Oteiza
2016-11-05 17:50   ` Stefan Monnier
2016-11-06 17:05     ` Mark Oteiza [this message]
2016-11-06 22:32       ` Stefan Monnier
2016-11-07  0:32   ` Mark Oteiza
2016-11-07  3:35     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-11-07  4:24       ` Mark Oteiza
2016-11-07 15:11         ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-11-07 20:08           ` Mark Oteiza
2016-11-07 20:13             ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-11-07 20:25               ` Mark Oteiza
2016-11-08  6:51                 ` Noam Postavsky
2016-11-07 20:31             ` Stefan Monnier
2016-11-07 21:32               ` Johan Bockgård
2016-11-08 13:00                 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-11-08 19:49                   ` John Wiegley
2016-11-05 15:51 ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-11-05 15:52 ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-11-05 16:42   ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-11-05 17:23     ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-11-05 17:31       ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-11-05 18:03         ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-11-05 15:57 ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-11-05 17:56   ` Stefan Monnier
2016-11-05 19:14     ` Clément Pit--Claudel

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