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From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
To: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: with-url
Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2017 22:37:12 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87h94s8587.fsf@gnus.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <194a8281-47d2-937c-ebbd-ba7bf18a8b3d@yandex.ru> (Dmitry Gutov's message of "Sun, 22 Jan 2017 00:27:18 +0300")

Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru> writes:

> On 22.01.2017 00:23, Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote:
>
>>> You said "none of these should signal an error from the library" in
>>> response to my enumerations of different kinds of errors: 404,
>>> hostname resolution failure, connection timeout.
>>
>> Yes...  but you asked about how code would examine "the absence of a
>> connection timeout".  I don't know what you mean.
>
> That's exactly my point. You said that none of these should be errors,
> and then only replied how the callers will find out about the error
> status, not about the other kinds of errors.

"The absence of a connection timeout" is not an error.  A connection
timeout is an error, of course, and the caller can access that error
like all the other errors.

None of these errors are control-flow-level errors, but are expected
behaviour.  You don't signal Lisp-level errors for expected behaviour.
That's what Java programmers did in the 90s, and they've learned their
lessons.

Well, most of them.

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no



  reply	other threads:[~2017-01-21 21:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-12-29  0:41 with-url Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-12-29  1:06 ` with-url Stefan Monnier
2016-12-29  1:12   ` with-url Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-12-29 16:05 ` with-url Eli Zaretskii
2016-12-29 16:35   ` with-url Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-12-29 16:40     ` with-url Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-12-29 16:58       ` with-url Eli Zaretskii
2016-12-29 18:52         ` with-url Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-12-29 20:31           ` with-url Eli Zaretskii
2016-12-30 14:12             ` with-url Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-12-30 15:23               ` with-url Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-12-30 16:58               ` with-url Eli Zaretskii
2017-01-21 15:31         ` with-url Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-01-21 15:33           ` with-url Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-01-21 15:54           ` with-url Eli Zaretskii
2017-01-21 16:32             ` with-url Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-01-21 16:40               ` with-url Eli Zaretskii
2017-01-22 15:55                 ` with-url Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-01-22 16:39                   ` with-url Eli Zaretskii
2016-12-29 16:53     ` with-url Eli Zaretskii
2016-12-29 18:48       ` with-url Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-01-01  1:07 ` with-url Dmitry Gutov
2017-01-03 17:47   ` with-url Stefan Monnier
2017-01-26 23:00     ` with-url Ted Zlatanov
2017-01-26 23:08       ` with-url Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-01-27 13:49         ` with-url Ted Zlatanov
2017-01-21 15:44   ` with-url Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-01-21 20:26     ` with-url Dmitry Gutov
2017-01-21 20:32       ` with-url Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-01-21 20:36         ` with-url Dmitry Gutov
2017-01-21 20:49           ` with-url Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-01-21 21:05             ` with-url Dmitry Gutov
2017-01-21 21:12               ` with-url Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-01-21 21:16                 ` with-url Dmitry Gutov
2017-01-21 21:23                   ` with-url Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-01-21 21:27                     ` with-url Dmitry Gutov
2017-01-21 21:37                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen [this message]
2017-01-21 21:54                         ` with-url Dmitry Gutov
2017-01-21 22:07                           ` with-url Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-01-22 12:14                             ` with-url Yuri Khan
2017-01-22 14:46                               ` with-url Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-01-22 15:13                                 ` with-url Dmitry Gutov
2017-01-22 16:36                                   ` with-url Eli Zaretskii
2017-01-22 21:27                                     ` with-url Dmitry Gutov
2017-01-22 14:22                             ` with-url Dmitry Gutov
2017-01-22 14:42                               ` with-url Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-01-21 20:34       ` with-url Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-01-21 20:38         ` with-url Dmitry Gutov
2017-01-21 20:48           ` with-url Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-01-21 22:25       ` with-url John Mastro
2017-01-22 16:04 ` with-url Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-01-22 16:42   ` with-url Eli Zaretskii
2017-01-22 16:55     ` with-url Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-01-22 23:56   ` not with-url Richard Stallman

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