bug#26635: 25.1; elisp docs bug

bug#26635: 25.1; elisp docs bug

[zhangjg]

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The elisp docs in the session "12.1 What Is a Function?" distinction the funtion and the function-like object.
But in some pages, some function-like object is give as a function. 
For example:
In session "3.4 Comparison of Numbers", "=" is a set to a "function" but, in fact it a "special forms".

In the same resason, I think, "<", "<=", ">", ">=" also should be "special forms".

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bug#26635: 25.1; elisp docs bug

[Andreas Schwab]

On Apr 24 2017, "zhangjg" <jinguozhang@qq.com> wrote:

> In session "3.4 Comparison of Numbers", "=" is a set to a "function" but, in fact it a "special forms".

Why do you think `=' is a special form?

Andreas.

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bug#26635: 回复： bug#26635: 25.1; elisp docs bug

[zhangjg]

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Like the fellow code:

  (= 1 1 t) ; error
  (= 1 2 t) ; nil

t is a symbol, (= 1 1 t) signal a error, that is what we expect. 
But in the second form there is no error, because  "=" get the
result before to eval the third argument "t". 
So "=" not to eval all arguments, that is  a "sepecial form" activation.




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发件人: "Andreas Schwab";<schwab@linux-m68k.org>;
发送时间: 2017年4月24日(星期一) 下午5:59
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主题: Re: bug#26635: 25.1; elisp docs bug



On Apr 24 2017, "zhangjg" <jinguozhang@qq.com> wrote:

> In session "3.4 Comparison of Numbers", "=" is a set to a "function" but, in fact it a "special forms".

Why do you think `=' is a special form?

Andreas.

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bug#26635: 回复： bug#26635: 25.1; elisp docs bug

[Andreas Schwab]

On Apr 24 2017, "zhangjg" <jinguozhang@qq.com> wrote:

> Like the fellow code:
>
>   (= 1 1 t) ; error
>   (= 1 2 t) ; nil
>
> t is a symbol, (= 1 1 t) signal a error, that is what we expect. 
> But in the second form there is no error, because  "=" get the
> result before to eval the third argument "t". 

All arguments are evaluated, by the caller.  Try (= 1 2 (foo)), for
example.

> So "=" not to eval all arguments, that is  a "sepecial form" activation.

It may _ignore_ some of its arguments, but that's not what `special
form' is about.  Any function is free to ignore arguments.

Andreas.

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