From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Ted Zlatanov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Deprecate TLS1.0 support in emacs Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2017 15:30:42 -0400 Organization: =?utf-8?B?0KLQtdC+0LTQvtGAINCX0LvQsNGC0LDQvdC+0LI=?= @ Cienfuegos Message-ID: <87h8xobg9p.fsf@lifelogs.com> References: <87o9sp7qok.fsf@gmail.com> <87zic9vk98.fsf@mouse> <87fue17mo5.fsf@gmail.com> <87tw2hvhob.fsf@mouse> <8760ex63hi.fsf@gmail.com> <87fue1v5lr.fsf@mouse> <87shi0tqh3.fsf@gmail.com> <87d18fwl66.fsf@gmail.com> <87tw1rihu0.fsf@mouse> <4037dc81-4245-6925-842a-2c84a5ba996d@cs.ucla.edu> <87pocfibky.fsf@mouse> <873798j2ij.fsf@mouse> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1501788704 9563 195.159.176.226 (3 Aug 2017 19:31:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2017 19:31:44 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Aug 03 21:31:41 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ddLqM-00029B-3N for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 03 Aug 2017 21:31:38 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44568 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ddLqS-0003P1-An for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 03 Aug 2017 15:31:44 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:54746) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ddLpp-0003Od-Gi for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Aug 2017 15:31:06 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ddLpl-0002DQ-4x for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Aug 2017 15:31:05 -0400 Original-Received: from [195.159.176.226] (port=44025 helo=blaine.gmane.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ddLpk-0002A2-Ui for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Aug 2017 15:31:01 -0400 Original-Received: from list by blaine.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ddLpU-0007to-Li for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Aug 2017 21:30:44 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Lines: 18 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6; d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" Mail-Copies-To: never Cancel-Lock: sha1:GJFyHaRy2VfFb00FG9OvCApXVr4= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 195.159.176.226 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:217263 Archived-At: On Thu, 03 Aug 2017 11:52:45 -0400 Stefan Monnier wrote: >> Hm... that sounds like a nice compromise. However, there might be a >> lot of these messages if, for instance, the user visits a web page where >> all the images are being served over a TLS connection we're warning >> about. SM> This problem keeps occurring, so we simply need to solve it once an for SM> all: provide a new variant of `message` which OT1H guarantees that this SM> message will be visible for a minimum of N seconds, and OTOH SM> guarantees that it won't be repeated more than once every M seconds (M SM> being probably large enough to be counted in hours). I'd love that. I think the `notifications-notify' function would be a good delegate on platforms that support it, and a suitable fallback could be developed for the rest of the platforms. Ted