From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#22621: 24.5; Wishlist: automatically start second Gnus session as a slave Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2018 18:39:15 +0200 Message-ID: <87h8ogqszw.fsf@mouse.gnus.org> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1523551094 2056 195.159.176.226 (12 Apr 2018 16:38:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2018 16:38:14 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: 22621@debbugs.gnu.org To: Dave Abrahams Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Apr 12 18:38:09 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1f6fEf-0000Mb-LC for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 12 Apr 2018 18:38:09 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53366 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1f6fGk-0003G5-Ov for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 12 Apr 2018 12:40:18 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:56918) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1f6fGZ-0003EF-5s for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 12 Apr 2018 12:40:11 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1f6fGV-0007Xt-81 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 12 Apr 2018 12:40:07 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:40321) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1f6fGV-0007Xk-3J for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 12 Apr 2018 12:40:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1f6fGU-00079G-KA; Thu, 12 Apr 2018 12:40:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2018 16:40:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 22621 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 22621-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B22621.152355117627439 (code B ref 22621); Thu, 12 Apr 2018 16:40:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 22621) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Apr 2018 16:39:36 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48217 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1f6fG1-00078S-6l for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 12 Apr 2018 12:39:36 -0400 Original-Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:59034) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1f6fFv-000782-RM for 22621@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 12 Apr 2018 12:39:31 -0400 Original-Received: from 46.67.12.60.tmi.telenormobil.no ([46.67.12.60] helo=corrigan) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1f6fFp-0007i6-8P; Thu, 12 Apr 2018 18:39:26 +0200 Original-Received: from larsi by corrigan with local (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1f6fFj-0004zj-Ck; Thu, 12 Apr 2018 18:39:15 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Dave Abrahams's message of "Wed, 10 Feb 2016 12:53:00 -0800") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:145168 Archived-At: Dave Abrahams writes: > I asked: > > The Gnus manual says you can get trouble by starting two non-slave > Gnusae at once: [[info:gnus#Slave%20Gnusae][info:gnus#Slave Gnusae]] > > So, shouldn't `M-x gnus' automatically dispatch to `gnus-slave' in that > case? > > In <87d1s6ecwa.fsf@gnus.org>, Lars replied: > > I haven't used the Gnus slave in decades. :-) But I think you're > right -- Gnus should start in slave mode if it manages to detect another > non-slave Gnus running. Could you report this with `M-x > report-emacs-bug' as a wishlist item? After thinking this over for 2 years, 8 weeks, 5 days, I think perhaps this would be too fiddly. First of all, detecting in a reliable way that another Gnus is running is difficult. And it's legitimate to start a new Gnus, anyway, and people aren't used to the slave invocation. So I think I'll mark this as a nofix after all. :-) -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no