From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eric Abrahamsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#36903: 27.0.50; gnus registry vs. debbugs Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2019 10:39:40 -0700 Message-ID: <87h858nq1v.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> References: <87pnlmen9q.fsf@web.de> <87zhkqw965.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87zhkpq0az.fsf@web.de> <87ef21wzrm.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87r261pwi6.fsf@web.de> <87tvaxvfxc.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87pnllvera.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87lfw497re.fsf@mouse.gnus.org> <87blx0afpv.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87r25rz36l.fsf@mouse.gnus.org> <87o90u2yq9.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <874l1e7wcq.fsf@gnus.org> <87v9tuh08w.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87h85dycnh.fsf@gnus.org> <87sgoxf86i.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87muf4tlve.fsf@gnus.org> <87ef0feuke.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="87733"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: 36903-done@debbugs.gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Sep 19 19:41:39 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iB0R0-000Mf3-EQ for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 19 Sep 2019 19:41:38 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47154 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iB0Qy-0004ay-Mx for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 19 Sep 2019 13:41:36 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:53572) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iB0PU-0003kr-Iv for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Sep 2019 13:40:05 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iB0PT-0002jY-I9 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Sep 2019 13:40:04 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:47565) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iB0PT-0002jS-CX for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Sep 2019 13:40:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iB0PT-0004qd-8Z for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Sep 2019 13:40:03 -0400 Resent-From: Eric Abrahamsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2019 17:40:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: cc-closed 36903 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Mail-Followup-To: 36903@debbugs.gnu.org, eric@ericabrahamsen.net, michael_heerdegen@web.de Original-Received: via spool by 36903-done@debbugs.gnu.org id=D36903.156891479118602 (code D ref 36903); Thu, 19 Sep 2019 17:40:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 36903-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Sep 2019 17:39:51 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56384 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iB0PG-0004py-WC for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 19 Sep 2019 13:39:51 -0400 Original-Received: from ericabrahamsen.net ([52.70.2.18]:37158 helo=mail.ericabrahamsen.net) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iB0PE-0004pc-EB for 36903-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 19 Sep 2019 13:39:50 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost (c-73-254-86-141.hsd1.wa.comcast.net [73.254.86.141]) (Authenticated sender: eric@ericabrahamsen.net) by mail.ericabrahamsen.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3379EFA081 for <36903-done@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 19 Sep 2019 17:39:42 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: <87ef0feuke.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> (Eric Abrahamsen's message of "Tue, 17 Sep 2019 06:37:53 +0800") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:166724 Archived-At: Eric Abrahamsen writes: > Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > >> Eric Abrahamsen writes: >> >>> I can do that for in-tree code, and my own packages, but who knows what >>> else is out there that might try something similar. >> >> Well, we can't control out-of-tree code, but Gnus should (in general) be >> able to generate a summary buffer without Gnus having been started -- I >> mean, that's a design goal. > > Okay, I'll make that change in gnus-registry.el, and elsewhere. I'll > keep that design goal in mind, though I wouldn't be surprised if we run > into more weirdness in this situation where the user's gnus.el has been > loaded, but then Gnus itself shut down. Okay, that's done and pushed.