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[64.90.62.162]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384) by 0.0.0.0:2500 (trex/5.18.5); Fri, 28 Feb 2020 12:30:17 +0000 X-MC-Relay: Neutral X-MailChannels-SenderId: dreamhost|x-authsender|jidanni@jidanni.org X-MailChannels-Auth-Id: dreamhost X-Squirrel-Decisive: 1466ae4f4d6c3f48_1582893017342_167690171 X-MC-Loop-Signature: 1582893017342:3687943082 X-MC-Ingress-Time: 1582893017342 Original-Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a42.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pdx1-sub0-mail-a42.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7378DA15CE; Fri, 28 Feb 2020 04:30:16 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=jidanni.org; h=from:to:cc :subject:references:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type; s=jidanni.org; bh=UxJQHTr3DGcsx0KUXN9R2qVWfEY=; b=Y5RTb6/EXV7MY TfRkofYpZb4+HPVGSjfiVKRlotWhhZrClkPLxj/+wc4Ikv3cMlRG5gHyUGzEGz2d ZAVVbw6sN4sDAzFXT0Waod7uyuv2vWIAdw1VJM+P+TProcZ78HlKjvPS5OlOaT6B QZ2larGumOuD5f3j1jORgGZr7x3SrM= Original-Received: from jidanni.org (114-41-5-43.dynamic-ip.hinet.net [114.41.5.43]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jidanni@jidanni.org) by pdx1-sub0-mail-a42.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5DE01A1263; Fri, 28 Feb 2020 04:30:14 -0800 (PST) X-DH-BACKEND: pdx1-sub0-mail-a42 X-VR-OUT-STATUS: OK X-VR-OUT-SCORE: -100 X-VR-OUT-SPAMCAUSE: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedugedrleekgdeflecutefuodetggdotefrodftvfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemucggtfgfnhhsuhgsshgtrhhisggvpdfftffgtefojffquffvnecuuegrihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecusecvtfgvtghiphhivghnthhsucdlqddutddtmdenucfjughrpefhvffufhffkfggtgesthdtredttddtjeenucfhrhhomhepnjjnnjcuffgrnhculfgrtghosghsohhnuceojhhiuggrnhhnihesjhhiuggrnhhnihdrohhrgheqnecuffhomhgrihhnpehsthgrtghkohhvvghrfhhlohifrdgtohhmnecukfhppeduudegrdeguddrhedrgeefnecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptdenucfrrghrrghmpehmohguvgepshhmthhppdhhvghlohepjhhiuggrnhhnihdrohhrghdpihhnvghtpeduudegrdeguddrhedrgeefpdhrvghtuhhrnhdqphgrthhhpeeprehuthhfqdekreeureehiehmpfehnfhiheehsgevkeerpecuffgrnhculfgrtghosghsohhnuceojhhiuggrnhhnihesjhhiuggrnhhnihdrohhrgheqpdhmrghilhhfrhhomhepjhhiuggrnhhnihesjhhiuggrnhhnihdrohhrghdpnhhrtghpthhtohepfeel kedtvdesuggvsggsuhhgshdrghhnuhdrohhrgh X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:176565 Archived-At: >>>>> "PS" == Phil Sainty writes: PS> Perhaps my answer at https://stackoverflow.com/a/13966287/324105 PS> also provides some helpful wording? (It can be appropriated for PS> the manual if it's useful.) So maybe the patch should say "in addition to (define-key ...-map ... nil) one can use (local-set-key ... ... ...)" I suppose. But maybe it is "less powerful" but I don't know.