From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Nicolas Goaziou Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Convert some files from outline-mode to org-mode Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2020 19:56:02 +0200 Message-ID: <87h7x3h4ul.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> References: <20200426172206.GC18629@ACM> <87y2qhnc9a.fsf@gmail.com> <20200427102311.GA4976@ACM> <87mu6xtano.fsf@gmail.com> <87k120ohsq.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87blnbir01.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <868sif5zqo.fsf@duenenhof-wilhelm.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="72617"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.3 (gnu/linux) Cc: Alan Mackenzie , Emacs developers , Stefan Kangas , =?utf-8?Q?K=C3=A9vin?= Le Gouguec , Juri Linkov To: dieter@duenenhof-wilhelm.de (H. Dieter Wilhelm) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Apr 28 19:56:45 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jTUTM-000Imf-Gs for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 28 Apr 2020 19:56:44 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43136 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jTUTL-0006X2-Gl for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 28 Apr 2020 13:56:43 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:46252) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jTUSo-0005yG-Nx for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Apr 2020 13:56:11 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jTUSn-0000BC-Ls for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Apr 2020 13:56:10 -0400 Original-Received: from relay7-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.200]:52091) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jTUSm-0000Ag-Rg for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Apr 2020 13:56:08 -0400 X-Originating-IP: 185.131.40.67 Original-Received: from localhost (40-67.ipv4.commingeshautdebit.fr [185.131.40.67]) (Authenticated sender: admin@nicolasgoaziou.fr) by relay7-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1FD3A20009; Tue, 28 Apr 2020 17:56:02 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: <868sif5zqo.fsf@duenenhof-wilhelm.de> (H. Dieter Wilhelm's message of "Tue, 28 Apr 2020 18:41:51 +0200") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.70.183.200; envelope-from=mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr; helo=relay7-d.mail.gandi.net X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/04/28 13:56:05 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 3.11 and newer [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 217.70.183.200 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:248036 Archived-At: Hello, dieter@duenenhof-wilhelm.de (H. Dieter Wilhelm) writes: > What is a bit frustrating / confusing - even for me as a longtime org > fan - is the changed behaviour of the paragraph keybindings M-h and M-{ > M-}. I'm not sure I follow, because Org binds M-h to org-mark-element and M-{ (resp. M-}) to org-backward-element (resp. org-forward-element), an "element" being the generalization of a paragraph in Text mode. I assume there's something in the behaviour of these functions that frustrates you, but you didn't say what it is. Regards, -- Nicolas Goaziou