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From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
To: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
Cc: 41250@debbugs.gnu.org, Arthur Miller <arthur.miller@live.com>,
	Juri Linkov <juri@linkov.net>
Subject: bug#41250: 28.0.50; Dired displays unconditionally ls-switches on modeline
Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2020 03:25:42 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87h7rewxd5.fsf@gnus.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <dcf62c68-cdb9-49c3-a8a0-15e59734246f@default> (Drew Adams's message of "Wed, 30 Sep 2020 14:07:39 -0700 (PDT)")

Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com> writes:

> I'd argue (but not forcefully) for just "...".  As I
> mentioned, "…" is, for me, useless as an ellipsis.  I think
> it must be useless for nearly everyone, with a fixed-width
> font.

I kinda like … because it takes up so little space, and the reason we're
normally truncating strings is because they take up too much space.  So
using that limited space for "..." is counter-productive.

But this should be standardised throughout Emacs, and work out of the
box automatically on systems that can display the character and not,
which makes truncate-string-to-width less than ideal.

There also, of course, the issue of "well, if the call says 'truncate to
15 characters', how much should we remove when we add the …?"  Because …
usually takes a bit more than a single normal character to display,
while "..." takes three.

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no





  reply	other threads:[~2020-10-01  1:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-05-14  1:42 bug#41250: 28.0.50; Dired displays unconditionally ls-switches on modeline Arthur Miller
2020-05-14 22:33 ` Juri Linkov
2020-05-14 23:42   ` Drew Adams
2020-05-15  8:44     ` Arthur Miller
2020-05-15 18:55       ` Drew Adams
2020-05-15 19:09         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-15 21:08           ` Arthur Miller
2020-05-15 22:19             ` Drew Adams
2020-05-17  3:09               ` Arthur Miller
2020-05-17  6:59                 ` Drew Adams
2020-05-17 11:12                   ` Arthur Miller
2020-05-16  6:34             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-16 12:18               ` Arthur Miller
2020-05-17  3:01               ` Arthur Miller
2020-05-17 15:17                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-17 16:34                   ` Arthur Miller
2020-05-17 16:42                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-17 22:57                       ` Arthur Miller
2020-05-17 23:37                         ` Stefan Kangas
2020-05-18 15:08                           ` Arthur Miller
2020-05-18 14:25                         ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]           ` <<VI1PR06MB4526BAF92DBDCEA6A75D7A0196BD0@VI1PR06MB4526.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
     [not found]             ` <<835zcwv15e.fsf@gnu.org>
2020-05-16 14:42               ` Drew Adams
2020-05-15 19:54         ` Arthur Miller
2020-05-15 22:19           ` Drew Adams
2020-05-15 22:24             ` Drew Adams
2020-09-30 16:02               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-30 19:04                 ` Juri Linkov
2020-09-30 19:30                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-30 19:58                     ` Juri Linkov
2020-09-30 19:59                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-10-01 19:37                         ` Juri Linkov
2020-10-01 19:59                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-10-02  6:31                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-02 14:10                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-10-02 14:57                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-03 17:36                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-10-02  6:54                             ` Juri Linkov
2020-10-02 14:14                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-10-02 14:59                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-03 17:38                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-10-04 19:44                                 ` Juri Linkov
2020-10-05  7:08                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-10-05 20:15                                     ` Juri Linkov
2020-10-06  1:37                                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-10-05 15:49                                   ` Glenn Morris
2020-10-05 20:12                                     ` Juri Linkov
2020-10-05 21:31                                       ` Andreas Schwab
2020-10-06 13:08                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2020-10-06 13:28                                           ` Andreas Schwab
2020-10-05 23:06                                       ` Glenn Morris
2020-10-06  7:13                                         ` Andreas Schwab
2020-10-06  7:18                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-06  7:28                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-06  7:48                                               ` Andreas Schwab
2020-10-06  8:18                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-06  8:44                                                   ` Andreas Schwab
2020-10-06  9:03                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-06  9:17                                                       ` Andreas Schwab
2020-10-06  9:24                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-06  9:45                                                           ` Andreas Schwab
2020-10-06  7:52                                             ` Juri Linkov
2020-10-01 20:01                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-10-01  2:30                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-01  2:39                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-10-01  9:24                         ` Andy Moreton
2020-09-30 21:07                   ` Drew Adams
2020-10-01  1:25                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen [this message]
2020-10-01 16:35                       ` Drew Adams
2020-09-30 20:56                 ` Drew Adams
2020-05-16 23:11         ` Juri Linkov
2020-05-17  1:16           ` Drew Adams
2020-05-15  6:43   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-15  8:40     ` Arthur Miller
2020-05-15 10:15       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-15 10:50         ` Arthur Miller
2020-10-06 11:36 ` Mattias Engdegård
     [not found] <<VI1PR06MB45265DF0191578C413A3B37C96BC0@VI1PR06MB4526.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
     [not found] ` <<87v9ky9p6o.fsf@mail.linkov.net>
     [not found]   ` <<654acc31-015d-4552-bd9b-3b8c69661fcd@default>
     [not found]     ` <<VI1PR06MB45265603DFF6BE71DBD819EB96BD0@VI1PR06MB4526.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
     [not found]       ` <<0957af50-7f85-455a-9d2c-e96451727872@default>
     [not found]         ` <<83a729uiaq.fsf@gnu.org>
2020-05-15 21:00           ` Drew Adams
2020-05-15 21:14             ` Arthur Miller
2020-05-15 22:04             ` Drew Adams

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