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From: Juri Linkov <juri@linkov.net>
To: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
Cc: rpluim@gmail.com, 43866@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#43866: 26.3; italian postfix additions
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2020 11:11:24 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87h7qx1a5f.fsf@mail.linkov.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1kSYYq-0005LA-N4@fencepost.gnu.org> (Richard Stallman's message of "Wed, 14 Oct 2020 00:38:48 -0400")

>   > Would it make sense to support exactly the same keys that are
>   > provided by the X11 compose method?
>
> That might be a good idea.

Do we have the rights to copy all key definitions from the X11 compose method?
I guess there are no licensing restrictions?

> Also, I wonder if we could make that command more self-documenting.
> Maybe C-h in the argument for C-x 8 could display a buffer
> which displays characters you can choose.
> Each character would be followed by the sequence to type to choose that
> character.

Yes, displaying a separate buffer would be useful.  Then maybe
displaying these keys could be moved from the Help buffer of 'C-h b'
that currently displays a very long list of 'C-x 8' keys at the beginning
of the Help buffer, so it's very difficult to see the keys of the
current mode that are at the end of the long Help buffer.

> This should include all the characters Emacs supports, divided clearly
> into Unicode code blocks, with their unicode names.  Not just the ones
> that have specific short C-x 8 sequences definied in Emacs.

Maybe also 'C-u C-x =' could suggest how to input characters
using C-x 8 mnemonics.

> It would be nice to have a prefix more mnemonic than C-x 8.
> But I have nothing to suggest.

Yes, to find a more mnemonic and shorter key would be useful.
Maybe this question could be asked on emacs-devel
where someone might have ideas for such a key.

> It would be good to shorten C-x 8 RET.  That is my go-to method
> of inserting characters for which I don't know a sequence.
>
> Currently, 8 upper-case letters are valid after C-h 8, and 6
> lower-case.  Suppose we free up one case -- either the upper-case
> letters or the lower-case letters.  Then we could make typing
> a letter of that case throw you into the minibuffer.

Sorry, I don't understand.  I tried to type 'C-h 8', and it's undefined.

> In this way, we could replace C-x 8 RET UNICODE-NAME RET with
> C-x 8 UNICODE-NAME RET.
>
> Also, why not change the Unicode character names to lower-case?
> They would look nicer that way, I think.

I don't know why the Unicode standard uses upper-case, but I see no problem
in Emacs with upper-case letters when case-fold is non-nil, so you can type
lower-case letters in completions.





  reply	other threads:[~2020-10-14  8:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 109+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-10-08 12:05 bug#43866: 26.3; italian postfix additions Francesco Potortì
2020-10-08 12:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-08 12:34   ` Francesco Potortì
2020-10-08 12:39   ` Robert Pluim
2020-10-08 12:57     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-08 13:54       ` Robert Pluim
2020-10-08 14:24         ` Robert Pluim
2020-10-08 14:32           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-08 13:26     ` Francesco Potortì
2020-10-08 14:00       ` Robert Pluim
2020-10-13 20:07     ` Juri Linkov
2020-10-14  2:31       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-14  8:07         ` Juri Linkov
2020-10-14 15:07           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-14 19:40             ` Juri Linkov
2020-10-15  2:34               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-19 20:45                 ` Juri Linkov
2020-10-19 23:12                   ` Stefan Kangas
2020-10-20 18:42                     ` Juri Linkov
2020-10-20 14:12                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-20 14:47                     ` Robert Pluim
2020-10-20 15:50                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-20 18:44                       ` Juri Linkov
2020-10-20 19:05                     ` Juri Linkov
2020-10-21  8:11                       ` Robert Pluim
2020-10-21 14:29                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-21 14:40                           ` Robert Pluim
2020-10-21 15:23                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-21 17:30                         ` Juri Linkov
2020-10-20 19:56                     ` Juri Linkov
2020-10-21 14:02                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-21 17:23                         ` Juri Linkov
2020-10-21 18:16                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-21 18:27                             ` Juri Linkov
2020-10-21 18:35                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-21 19:39                                 ` Juri Linkov
2020-10-22 12:59                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-22 20:56                                     ` bug#44155: Print integers as characters Juri Linkov
2020-10-22 22:39                                       ` Andreas Schwab
2020-10-23  8:16                                         ` Juri Linkov
2020-10-23  8:32                                         ` Juri Linkov
2020-10-24 19:53                                           ` Juri Linkov
2020-10-25 17:22                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-25 19:09                                               ` Juri Linkov
2020-10-25 19:53                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-27 20:08                                                   ` Juri Linkov
2020-10-28 15:51                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-28 19:41                                                       ` Juri Linkov
2020-10-29 14:20                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-29 21:00                                                           ` Juri Linkov
2020-10-30  7:35                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-31 20:11                                                               ` Juri Linkov
2020-10-31 23:27                                                                 ` Glenn Morris
2020-11-01  7:58                                                                   ` Juri Linkov
2020-11-01 15:13                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-01 18:39                                                                       ` Juri Linkov
2020-11-01 18:51                                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-01 19:13                                                                           ` Juri Linkov
2020-11-01 19:41                                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-01 20:16                                                                               ` Juri Linkov
2020-11-01 12:03                                       ` Mattias Engdegård
2020-11-01 18:35                                         ` Juri Linkov
2020-11-01 20:52                                           ` Mattias Engdegård
2020-11-02 21:36                                             ` Juri Linkov
2020-11-02 23:03                                               ` Mattias Engdegård
2020-11-03  8:30                                                 ` Juri Linkov
2020-11-03 15:24                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-03 18:47                                                   ` Mattias Engdegård
2020-11-03 19:36                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-04 11:03                                                       ` Mattias Engdegård
2020-11-04 15:38                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-04 16:46                                                           ` Mattias Engdegård
2020-11-04 16:58                                                             ` Mattias Engdegård
2020-11-06 13:02                                                               ` Mattias Engdegård
2022-04-30 12:19                                     ` bug#43866: 26.3; italian postfix additions Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-04-30 12:29                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-04-30 14:49                                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-04-30 15:26                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-04-30 18:49                                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-05-29 13:35                                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-10-15  3:52         ` Richard Stallman
2020-10-14  4:38       ` Richard Stallman
2020-10-14  8:11         ` Juri Linkov [this message]
2020-10-14 10:43         ` Robert Pluim
2020-10-15  3:54           ` Richard Stallman
2020-10-14 14:56         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-08 15:23 ` Mattias Engdegård
2020-10-08 15:35   ` Robert Pluim
2020-10-08 16:22     ` Francesco Potortì
2020-10-08 15:42   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-08 16:10   ` Francesco Potortì
2020-10-08 17:18     ` Robert Pluim
2020-10-08 17:28       ` Francesco Potortì
2020-10-08 17:59       ` Mattias Engdegård
2020-10-08 19:55         ` Francesco Potortì
2020-10-09  4:42         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-10-09 11:26           ` Mattias Engdegård
2020-10-09 11:53             ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2020-10-09 12:45               ` Robert Pluim
2020-10-09 14:31                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-09 14:48                   ` Robert Pluim
2020-10-09 15:04                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-10 20:54                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-10-12  9:26                         ` Robert Pluim
2020-10-09 15:05                   ` Mattias Engdegård
2020-10-09 15:08                     ` Robert Pluim
2020-10-09 15:28                       ` Mattias Engdegård
2020-10-09 15:10                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-09 15:21                       ` Robert Pluim

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