From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Introducing emacs-webkit and more thoughts on Emacs rendering (was Rethinking the design of xwidgets) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2020 07:27:32 +0100 Message-ID: <87h7pfb76z.fsf@gnus.org> References: <864kmzupp0.fsf@akirakyle.com> <86pn46awrr.fsf@akirakyle.com> <87y2ise7j5.fsf@gnus.org> <86tutfwhr6.fsf@akirakyle.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="9979"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Akira Kyle Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Nov 24 07:28:31 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1khRoU-0002U7-LD for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2020 07:28:30 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52472 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1khRoT-0005kQ-Na for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2020 01:28:29 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:58894) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1khRng-0005GR-Ky for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2020 01:27:40 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2]:39170) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1khRnf-0001N6-1Z for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2020 01:27:40 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=7mvm5EKFQWk93wEav2Odku0ugvu4cWteT8oTg8AIdl0=; b=GaRtJeTRNqVKeb1zyasS/0LAQO MNy5Xr8BCUGlv8fqEQK5bOTsmxnDTi+KzRMHWpu5ldYMA+XpEKTC2AJnH4Hk3ebL/ih3APaYihOsU BMA2KdlIlMUBcNMSLBMmekxjdZURZ9dgHmAHL68b5VeyQJDOtv5UMCxS4wC1KhZtxuAc=; Original-Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1khRnZ-0000MI-OB; Tue, 24 Nov 2020 07:27:36 +0100 Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAAGFBMVEXpmB4gL4dEJEvj XRublpjCLCYWDg/////Hlt10AAAAAWJLR0QHFmGI6wAAAAd0SU1FB+QLGAYTFjLKNSQAAAG1SURB VDjLddHNbuQgDABgutu9r6lmzwspOY+S0PNU5QFaR/Q+rOL3f4Ta/MyQqIuUoPBhGxyl7uNB/WeY 8zeLIVwU/O5XZvVz5ofhBzw9hnCHMpblskAIy+UIlyWEV4aQv86cpAaEkGEOdeMNFt78Gp5DeDtA WHh/0LeAG7x5DgBYvwGQ8XSHmCe/ThlOHcjgDB8Z7rkKMBkAw89whAhgExk4RU4ruRsg6GkbyWhf Fxp8gMZIdIV4AAN69UQJ3AH4pOd5JOIiO0AA984RXGQPfItTfKGuiGolQL8XcDuQS//9zHDqATOU CN1DbtQwSXGAHvgW3HKfNvSmFikAzqHRvxx3CWuRDMh5rTPo4hptLaJKiYgj2WGdIrabZDB6jtyO fzM6PnIpovJhB8+dpW2OAleNaK2yFhHWKBFpniND0tZmsNw4rIAkrb+BXbm2pPLSFQJdAazsZ4jb uAcnpTnHWmYDBWTOCzT4PeixrNM2VdAZAOo6JczTtYD8vCYNoAK0XLYH+UctJJU3L1RoEdSB6QKI xgpQ4M8eKINk4u9R8qfkPlPNpUrAWHfHvEFuItDVbacA+AIXCg5SVfXFaAAAACV0RVh0ZGF0ZTpj cmVhdGUAMjAyMC0xMS0yNFQwNjoxOToyMiswMDowMPbQPC8AAAAldEVYdGRhdGU6bW9kaWZ5ADIw MjAtMTEtMjRUMDY6MTk6MjIrMDA6MDCHjYSTAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC X-Now-Playing: The Police's =?utf-8?Q?=5FZenyatt=C3=A0?= Mondatta_: "Voices Inside My Head" In-Reply-To: <86tutfwhr6.fsf@akirakyle.com> (Akira Kyle's message of "Mon, 23 Nov 2020 20:33:49 -0700") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2; envelope-from=larsi@gnus.org; helo=quimby.gnus.org X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:259715 Archived-At: Akira Kyle writes: > Thus I feel like the only sane way to mix the two is to allow gtk to > just take over an Emacs window which is always rectangular. No need to > worry about scrolling and all the redisplay optimizations that will > try to interfere with gtk attempting to draw at some point in the > buffer. I think this design reduces the use cases for emacs-webkit considerably -- if all you can do with it is to let it take over a window completely, then that's disappointing. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no