From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Philip Kaludercic Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: PROPOSAL: Repurpose one key and reserve it for third-party packages Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2021 15:09:44 +0100 Message-ID: <87h7mhgyxj.fsf@posteo.net> References: <7ef75c33936136eb3a20@heytings.org> <8735y56naf.fsf@posteo.net> <8ed9b43502ae9a36b057@heytings.org> <87tuqk6d9d.fsf@posteo.net> <3966473cc1ab9f104724@heytings.org> <87o8gr1oom.fsf@posteo.net> <87lfbubthl.fsf@posteo.net> <87tuqia845.fsf@posteo.net> <87pn16a1xn.fsf@posteo.net> <87lfbu9q5x.fsf@posteo.net> <329d68a5ed6d1194f3c0@heytings.org> <87czx5a947.fsf@posteo.net> <329d68a5ed1656b4427e@heytings.org> <87zh098lo4.fsf@posteo.net> <329d68a5ed26ba41356b@heytings.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="2197"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.1 (gnu/linux) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Gregory Heytings Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Feb 12 15:10:21 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lAZ9J-0000U1-1C for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 12 Feb 2021 15:10:21 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55846 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lAZ9I-0002Jr-2k for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 12 Feb 2021 09:10:20 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:55380) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lAZ8q-0002Hu-PW for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Feb 2021 09:09:52 -0500 Original-Received: from mout01.posteo.de ([185.67.36.65]:47299) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lAZ8n-0005FP-OF for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Feb 2021 09:09:52 -0500 Original-Received: from submission (posteo.de [89.146.220.130]) by mout01.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BB6E0160060 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2021 15:09:45 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1613138985; bh=Wi152uNCLj2qxwKi32WLS61cCB+5jfV6kQhuCBCHyTQ=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:From; b=dHihN6b59CSrw+d5P7/PppG6DBrnwAqQirr7E8mrfvNDiWLcBcuCz7EokLj7D/cK8 kT72u80NsFshm8eSZIPAcK72wehNUJrkBfwr12PRRqvjKXuN75xB/1/kRBNcmv5N9S zhontgeOQaZB7gDMTqBsEosCwkZY9xgyX+X+hShpjw/VFhEq1N1emQGv71Y+hvemSw aKplrcV/IaHWWFSsetwQ+0JRDUfP62t4OFuDkk3gJiR5YZGP2+ZBORvWWP4lGftAjy 06tErq2LbDEA6EcN1GoiLHDpmq2l5HBj88tHDCruResBp/X/4WwZ01KULBXtExM/t1 qO3XH1gR378OA== Original-Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4Dcb3X6zLyz6tmT; Fri, 12 Feb 2021 15:09:44 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: <329d68a5ed26ba41356b@heytings.org> (Gregory Heytings's message of "Fri, 12 Feb 2021 13:54:43 +0000") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.67.36.65; envelope-from=philipk@posteo.net; helo=mout01.posteo.de X-Spam_score_int: -43 X-Spam_score: -4.4 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:127852 Archived-At: --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Gregory Heytings writes: >> The only real solution that I see is something along the lines of >> what I recommended: Packages suggest customizations, and >> package-install may either ignore, ask for confirmation or accept >> them by default, if there are no problems with what is suggested >> (eg. collisions). > > And that solution cannot be implemented if there is no key space > reserved for third-party libraries. Which is what the proposal is > about. The proposal is not about the particular mechanisms that could > be used to bind keys in that reserved area. I argue it can be done, and that the proposal to have packages suggest keys to bind would avoid the need to designate a special key space for third-party packages. That is why I'm brining it up. =2D-=20 Philip K. --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQGzBAEBCAAdFiEEbW+YL3e0aNnYosjIGB9bla4wszYFAmAmjCgACgkQGB9bla4w szZmrAv8ChjogfVqxTWr/dT7KAgBKnQYqMkfIRUsba1yOsWuo+wL8C7MT58714Ho 1TBUrTQjZ3QDrDzjeUTeRsSb+PZP5b1RQjI7M2qIh3OiZl9B1BeFzGOst+4n0wxP CLva0vcQi7kPOOAeuKiG3X0LrE12FubmzRcIsFsHSJtH1M/1E/l3ylcpNSx1eArW sItcn3C1gQjGEucCDIilfOibVFBWAPRckQwhvS9MFbUx9KezhCQjqCSCkw/7xTsu R5THUEI0jVLe7dUN9LmdEtAc381M+0sL1WeFlfEO7lTCzKbZ8E6Sa4oMR39NXGp6 6Yt6SKzWyVVD5z0OwfRN2yl77B5/5+MZdcXPTjkovKr1mJPQQKrsT9XlpYowrYz9 0Lj6Mxhx4JUM6Wy4V4A94GNkaT+5E9Hw6XZ4VLdrMS120FGsjx6P3Ti/HczIW/LP aO39MgquuQ4Ap9GDwWtUlwu58lU6kCgNqwTxbUC5720gIXQZz8h4oyYYTdATW0eU olOcnINw =gJ/0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--