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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:279623 Archived-At: >>>>> On Wed, 17 Nov 2021 14:01:48 +0300, Andr=C3=A9 A. Gomes said: Andr=C3=A9> Robert Pluim writes: >>>>>>> On Tue, 16 Nov 2021 23:40:45 +0300, Andr=C3=A9 A. Gomes said: Andr=C3=A9> On another subject, I wonder what would be worth to burn cy= cles on. And Andr=C3=A9> how to deal with the idiosyncrasies of the gatekeepers of t= his Andr=C3=A9> community. >>=20 >> etc/TODO has some suggestions. Perhaps we should add "work on >> improving your communication skills to avoid ad hominems" to it. I >> should perhaps work on that too :-) Andr=C3=A9> I never observed/felt ad hominems. Saying 'how to deal with the idiosyncrasies of the gatekeepers of community' when engaging in a disagreement with Eli comes across as ad hominem to me. If I=CA=BCm mistaken I apologise. Andr=C3=A9> The issue is different. Time is spent writing and explaini= ng your point Andr=C3=A9> of view. Sadly, little effort is actually put on understan= ding. It's Andr=C3=A9> easy to evade a conversation, but disrespectful. At the en= d of the day, Andr=C3=A9> the sacred gatekeepers have the final word. And again: 'sacred gatekeepers'. Nobody here is sacred, and they=CA=BCre not 'gatekeepers'. That word has taken on a very negative connotation in recent years. Robert --=20