From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: [External] : Re: completing-read depricated initial-input Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2022 21:12:32 +0200 Message-ID: <87h748a76n.fsf@dataswamp.org> References: <86r13hubaw.fsf_-_@gnu.org> <86letphfke.fsf_-_@gnu.org> <86mte3lsj2.fsf_-_@gnu.org> <871qvfoce1.fsf@web.de> <87zgi2tqwt.fsf@dataswamp.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="14572"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:7T0nwZ2xAA95AyHNvPi/MHqltc8= Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Jun 25 21:13:24 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1o5BDg-0003cu-Ij for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 25 Jun 2022 21:13:24 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50414 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1o5BDf-0006OE-Bg for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 25 Jun 2022 15:13:23 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:34254) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1o5BD3-0006Nr-GF for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 25 Jun 2022 15:12:45 -0400 Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]:59784) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1o5BD1-0004nI-Ms for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 25 Jun 2022 15:12:45 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1o5BCy-0002mv-Rd for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 25 Jun 2022 21:12:40 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Mail-Copies-To: never Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.7 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:138092 Archived-At: Drew Adams wrote: > 1. There are uses for an initial-input arg. I've only seen one use case for inserting the initial value and it's the completion one, I don't like that to begin with and with this use case I like it even less since basically the computer then tells the user "Okay, this is as far as I can take you, now you start complete your way thru the rest of the jungle without me". > 2. Automatic insertion of the default value can be useful > and preferred by some users. Let users choose. Make that an option if so the users can put to t if they want it rather than have the programer give the default value twice to the same function. > 3. Emacs shouldn't deprecate, let alone get rid of, an > initial-input arg for `completing-read'. Prognosis: annihilation. -- underground experts united https://dataswamp.org/~incal