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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-To: larch@yhetil.org X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1656602281; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=Eewa1NsEJgHQi4jsVaZ5FwChxb+wlWSYmuu4CxMujXI=; b=F+FLWj2NY5V5lk8MJrGTVRP0dP0QuDJqrqNZSurwMM+Msn+4RnF7eD7L53YrjhzCH226/n erGTLCA1w8LaY8UdHAieHq+TAzsW7WkQtNuo7cZFxeS3Djnuxw0epyl9UrZREQnOFhP7oC PPF3GNurrk6uSN9c1kGIl0XI6pejEn4oky7Adblfade26EasqFz62HI7kV+vG0dmKrhO5D OpOp+ZneSwGDB5uzEsg6j2iuuE6fIzPT+ABFn/UXT5vw4fGPTwv1ISKNuNqF4K9TYLK/Bl QShQDtfP/4Hsse+L5o33irOGtBhvZuSBYsSR/yHqwbw8ERt4yjq2VKfCVtAVIw== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1656602281; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=NdzqHcmG0OHejYHGWD5KhHi0Y9bggxGIWYznkBKBR05SPyzeksJblJZzyvQxTNmV46AKh1 ekdGV02htWgQ8xiIpzRM0UPn6BBl1vW4cXOyUrv/H4QOzUAwM3gJKjAZuqpEkmV755n18T 52Bv0XDplm1p6Q39HKnmQLE5P7oSG0E5Ga0NeXj6JbDMC6f4RiqNUqofSvqb3d/8M0/Fqa 5cc8DIySZUFpxANemQ3rDv24H4aC4t+gUenebXJ9YJFIfhvRErE8Ih2bSledU5ZpEOeT6d bGEsVD+wSrZrdDLG+OW8+r4xe5Ky51cGSTiTLO0A4chjt2YMvAH8jsW0rsOTdw== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20210112 header.b=VJbcWIbh; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -7.95 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20210112 header.b=VJbcWIbh; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 9AE68177AD X-Spam-Score: -7.95 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: 25JW6YAjNPDh >>>>> On Thu, 30 Jun 2022 21:19:36 +0800, Ihor Radchenko said: Ihor> Robert Pluim writes: >> >> Occasional committers would probably not read org-maintenance.org= , and >> >> those are the people this section is aimed at, I think. Plus it= =CA=BCs the >> >> kind of thing you need to catch early: once the commit has been p= ushed >> >> it=CA=BCs too late. >>=20 Ihor> Not really. org-contribute.org is the page directly linked from Ihor> orgmode.org. It is aiming for new contributors with no write acce= ss. >>=20 >> This particular change is in "Your first commit as an Org >> maintainer". Perhaps that node should be moved to org-maintenance.or= g? Ihor> I do not think so. I am seeing this section as a "crash course" f= or the Ihor> new maintainers. We should only provide the critical information = there. Ihor> Not too much, not too less. Something to not scare people with the Ihor> details. I guess we disagree about whether knowing about the distinction between 'Author:' and 'Commit:' is critical or not. For a free software project correct attribution of changes is very important, so committers should pay attention to it (and by extension the documentation should educate them about it at the earliest opportunity). But you=CA=BCre the maintainer :-) Ihor> The elaborate details should be in org-maintenance.org, which is Ihor> directly mentioned at the end of the "first commit" section. In "Where can I track bugs, patches and updates?" or somewhere else? BTW, I=CA=BCm having trouble parsing this sentence from there: You don't much more: confirming bugs is a critical contribution. There=CA=BCs at least one word missing betweeen "don=CA=BCt" and "much" the= re. Robert --=20