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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:296980 Archived-At: Andrea Corallo writes: > I think `inhibit-jit-native-compilation' is better as I believe users > perceive the JIT word related to user code and not internal mechanisms > as trampolines. It's possible -- I'm not married to the current name. Perhaps we should take a poll? > I've the perception that this change was done without the full picture > in mind of how the native compiler and his mechanisms works. As a > result the current naming is IMO just wrong, and as such is a step > backward the original state. I don't know where you got that perception from.