From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Philip Kaludercic Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Allowing rolling release packages on ELPA Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2022 15:58:31 +0000 Message-ID: <87h6zt43iw.fsf@posteo.net> References: <87o7u4p2t4.fsf@posteo.net> <874jvvm9hn.fsf@protesilaos.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="8306"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: "Emacs Devel" To: "Bozhidar Batsov" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Oct 24 18:09:02 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1on00c-0001xZ-3y for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 24 Oct 2022 18:09:02 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1omzqa-0007VF-0q; Mon, 24 Oct 2022 11:58:40 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1omzqX-0007Uu-Qj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Oct 2022 11:58:38 -0400 Original-Received: from mout01.posteo.de ([185.67.36.65]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1omzqV-0005lO-RJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Oct 2022 11:58:37 -0400 Original-Received: from submission (posteo.de [185.67.36.169]) by mout01.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BE28F240029 for ; Mon, 24 Oct 2022 17:58:33 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1666627113; bh=QHF4Q2eG8kH0fiwQz0m5M1pa+JpjKHDjN39WCatsBls=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Autocrypt:Date:From; b=Orx7Efr4kH/M4Of9W6q4MkVdq2L3NREGaeXaMEIKKEyRMZHgrjLJ0CYUqA2I+rN8j 5dqvzocGSJ66285GeYJZtUvWR0XYzOvDjDehnoOkLkI+wT8B6lzYy0MXlbTDsun8x0 fQYa74xm7TY3Xd44oBWQFw6SCK4ew7ufs2/EuZYSC3VuWfApHXBX4rlnRm1usF2IW/ u6oHgXNLuvQqgCcFelGdC8WQSXjabjKlH3h76j3RejERXz8rPzZ2LsCkQstlDWps36 U7diL/cEOBkxlXubJnFOcRKBws6PxZIYuOfw0KIn1OHBS2BECaNWlEvCksyFq2uQ9T yg2fMeh0DuSkQ== Original-Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4Mx09N286vz6tpX; Mon, 24 Oct 2022 17:58:32 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: (Bozhidar Batsov's message of "Mon, 24 Oct 2022 09:14:55 +0300") Autocrypt: addr=philipk@posteo.net; prefer-encrypt=nopreference; keydata= mDMEYHHqUhYJKwYBBAHaRw8BAQdAp3GdmYJ6tm5McweY6dEvIYIiry+Oz9rU4MH6NHWK0Ee0QlBo aWxpcCBLYWx1ZGVyY2ljIChnZW5lcmF0ZWQgYnkgYXV0b2NyeXB0LmVsKSA8cGhpbGlwa0Bwb3N0 ZW8ubmV0PoiQBBMWCAA4FiEEDM2H44ZoPt9Ms0eHtVrAHPRh1FwFAmBx6lICGwMFCwkIBwIGFQoJ CAsCBBYCAwECHgECF4AACgkQtVrAHPRh1FyTkgEAjlbGPxFchvMbxzAES3r8QLuZgCxeAXunM9gh io0ePtUBALVhh9G6wIoZhl0gUCbQpoN/UJHI08Gm1qDob5zDxnIHuDgEYHHqUhIKKwYBBAGXVQEF AQEHQNcRB+MUimTMqoxxMMUERpOR+Q4b1KgncDZkhrO2ql1tAwEIB4h4BBgWCAAgFiEEDM2H44Zo Pt9Ms0eHtVrAHPRh1FwFAmBx6lICGwwACgkQtVrAHPRh1Fw1JwD/Qo7kvtib8jy7puyWrSv0MeTS g8qIxgoRWJE/KKdkCLEA/jb9b9/g8nnX+UcwHf/4VfKsjExlnND3FrBviXUW6NcB Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.67.36.65; envelope-from=philipk@posteo.net; helo=mout01.posteo.de X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:298379 Archived-At: (Btw, please don't forget to wide-reply when responding on the mailing list. I missed this message at first because gmane was not working properly yesterday). "Bozhidar Batsov" writes: > The patch seems fine to me, but I'm a bit skeptical about the whole > rolling releases idea in general - e.g. should something like a change > to the docs really result in a new release? How hard it is for people > to actually update version timestamps themselves or to just stick to > the *-devel repos if they don't want to cut releases? In principle I agree, but there are people who insist on it as I mention in response to Protesilaos' message. If every commit is a significant change, then any time that ELPA synchronises the repository is the right time to publish a new release. > How much was the demand for something like this in general? I can't > think of any major Emacs package that does rolling releases. I have been talking with a lot of maintainers over the last year or so and there were certainly some that preferred rolling, perhaps not so much because they are always working on new features, but rather because the code was relatively stable that the only changes are bug fixes.