From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Michael Albinus via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#67937: 30.0.50; auth-source-pass relies on epa-file being enabled Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2023 10:47:06 +0100 Message-ID: <87h6k8kk4l.fsf@gmx.de> References: <8734vwq06i.fsf@aarsen.me> <83frzwhgre.fsf@gnu.org> <87jzp8of97.fsf@aarsen.me> <83bkakhe8s.fsf@gnu.org> <87msu4myau.fsf@aarsen.me> <83y1dnga7u.fsf@gnu.org> <87sf3vlqj1.fsf@aarsen.me> <871qbf4ocp.fsf@neverwas.me> <871qbflg53.fsf@aarsen.me> <87h6kbxgzl.fsf@neverwas.me> <87jzp6is0s.fsf@aarsen.me> <87ttoas466.fsf@neverwas.me> <878r5mm3el.fsf@gmx.de> <875y0qrmhj.fsf@neverwas.me> <871qbdmagw.fsf@gmx.de> <87bkahlzzp.fsf@neverwas.me> <868r5lszxm.fsf@aarsen.me> <87plywlus1.fsf@gmx.de> <86r0jcn100.fsf@aarsen.me> Reply-To: Michael Albinus Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="11709"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cc: Damien Cassou , Eli Zaretskii , 67937@debbugs.gnu.org, "J.P." 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That's a topic for a different bug report, though ;P >> >> Do you have a recipe for the problem w/o calling epa-disble-file? > > No. > > This patch/bug report addresses a real problem that exists independently > of what triggered it in my case. The problem happens when epa-file-handler is removed from file-name-handler-alist, and no other handler responsible for *.gpg files is active. Understood. However, in normal use cases, nobody removes this handler. If I'm wrong, I'd like to iunderstand those use cases. So we must document, that auth-source-pass.el depends on such a handler. We could also add a check, that there is such a handler, and return either nil if it is missing, or return an error. As a first step, we could add a note in the manual, see (info "(auth) The Unix password stor= e") Just implementing an alternative doesn't sound the right way. This would also increase maintainance burden, if something changes how *.gpg files shall be handled. As example, remote files won't work when tramp-file-name-handler is removed from file-name-handler-alist. It would be a strange approach to implement a Tramp alternative in packades depending on Tramp, just in case. > Your gut's nearly certainly right here :-) I am still hunting for the > cause of that issue. Good. > Regardless, what I said initially holds true ultimately: either epa-file > should not be relied on, or a-s-p should ensure it is present. I > gravitate towards the former, as it reduces the complexity of getting a > password-store entry. I vote for the latter, because it simplifies overall maintainability. > Have a lovely day! > > Arsen Arsenovi=C4=87 Best regards, Michael.