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From: Juri Linkov <juri@linkov.net>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: Mickey Petersen <mickey@masteringemacs.org>,
	Yuan Fu <casouri@gmail.com>,
	Theodor Thornhill <theo@thornhill.no>,
	Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,
	73404@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#73404: 30.0.50; [forward/kill/etc]-sexp commands do not behave as expected in tree-sitter modes
Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2024 09:54:11 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87h66pr1qc.fsf@mail.linkov.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvwmfnd0u3.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (Stefan Monnier's message of "Wed, 25 Dec 2024 14:29:19 -0500")

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>>> Gentle reminder that `forward-sexp` is not a "list-navigation" function.
>>> That would be `forward-list`.  We very often use sexp commands and
>>> functions to manipulate non-lists such as identifiers.
>> Do you think it would be better to override low-level functions 'scan-lists'
>> and 'scan-sexps' with new variables like 'scan-lists-function'
>> and 'scan-sexps-function', instead of adding more variables for
>> overriding top-level commands such as a new variable 'forward-list-function'
>> and 'down-list-function', like the existing 'forward-sexp-function'?
>
> Don't know.

I tried to override `scan-lists` and `scan-sexps` with advices
(a proof of concept attached below), and it works nicely.
For example, `C-M-d` moves down to the HTML element in html-ts-mode.

But then I realized there are not too many places where such
overriding might be useful.  In fact, there is only 1 place
in `show-paren--default` that uses `scan-sexps`.  But even this
occurrence can't be used, so I created `treesit-show-paren-data`
for `show-paren-data-function` in bug#75122.

And overriding `scan-lists` is useful only in `forward-list`,
`down-list` and `up-list`.  That's all.  So clearly instead
of overriding `scan-lists` and `scan-sexps`, better would be
to add 3 new variables: `forward-list-function`,
`down-list-function` and `up-list-function`.

This gives the users more flexibility to choose for example navigation
for C-M-f with a limited number of treesit lists + syntax symbols, and
for C-M-n everything that is a list in treesit.  This means that with

  start_atimer (-!-enum atimer_type type, struct timespec timestamp)

C-M-f could skip only the next symbol and move to

  start_atimer (enum-!- atimer_type type, struct timespec timestamp)

while C-M-n could skip the whole next `parameter_declaration`

  start_atimer (enum atimer_type type-!-, struct timespec timestamp)

or vice versa depending on the values of all new options `...-function`
in ts-modes.

> What I do know is that in general we'd also want an `up-sexp` operation.
> Currently we have an ugly kludge in `up-list` to try and use
> `forward-sexp-function` (which is ugly both because
> `forward-sexp-function` doesn't really provide the functionality we
> need, and because it mixes up sexp and list navigation), and it would be
> good to clean it up.

Agreed, this distinction is required for treesit.  Hopefully,
this can be achieved by separating `forward-sexp-function`
and `up-list-function` that in ts-modes could be set to new
functions either `treesit-up-list` or `treesit-up-sexp`.

PS: will try to refactor everything in this attachment to new
`forward-list-function`, `down-list-function` and `up-list-function`:


[-- Attachment #2: scan-lists-advice.el --]
[-- Type: application/emacs-lisp, Size: 1594 bytes --]

      reply	other threads:[~2024-12-27  7:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-09-21  5:06 bug#73404: 30.0.50; [forward/kill/etc]-sexp commands do not behave as expected in tree-sitter modes Mickey Petersen
2024-09-26  7:42 ` Yuan Fu
2024-09-26  9:56   ` Mickey Petersen
2024-09-26 10:53     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-26 12:13       ` Mickey Petersen
2024-09-26 13:46         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-26 15:21           ` Mickey Petersen
2024-09-26 15:45             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-27  5:43               ` Yuan Fu
2024-09-29 16:56                 ` Juri Linkov
2024-10-01  3:57                   ` Yuan Fu
2024-10-01 17:49                     ` Juri Linkov
2024-10-02  6:14                       ` Yuan Fu
2024-12-05 18:52                       ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-05 19:53                         ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-10 17:20                           ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-11  6:31                             ` Yuan Fu
2024-12-11 15:12                               ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-12-11 15:29                                 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-12-11 16:50                                 ` Mickey Petersen
2024-12-11 18:27                                 ` Yuan Fu
2024-12-12  7:17                                   ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-12  7:40                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-12  7:58                                       ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-12  8:14                                         ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-12 16:31                                           ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-12 17:49                                             ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-12 19:13                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-13  7:06                                                 ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-14 11:02                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-14 18:14                                                     ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-18  7:37                                               ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-19  4:04                                                 ` Yuan Fu
2024-12-19  7:14                                                   ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-19  7:18                                                   ` bug#74963: Ambiguous treesit named and anonymous nodes in ruby-ts-mode Juri Linkov
2024-12-24  3:02                                                     ` Yuan Fu
2024-12-24  7:17                                                       ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-24  7:41                                                         ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-25  3:25                                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-12-25  7:52                                                           ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-26  1:00                                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-12-27  7:42                                                               ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-24 17:52                                                       ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-24 21:03                                                         ` Yuan Fu
2024-12-25  7:49                                                           ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-25  9:11                                                             ` Yuan Fu
2024-12-25 17:39                                                               ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-19  7:34                               ` bug#73404: 30.0.50; [forward/kill/etc]-sexp commands do not behave as expected in tree-sitter modes Juri Linkov
2024-12-24 19:05                                 ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-24 21:14                                   ` Yuan Fu
2024-12-25  7:44                                     ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-25  8:34                                       ` Yuan Fu
2024-12-25 17:36                                         ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-27  7:59                                           ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-25 17:19                                   ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-12-25 18:01                                     ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-25 19:29                                       ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-12-27  7:54                                         ` Juri Linkov [this message]

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