From: Helmut Eller <eller.helmut@gmail.com>
To: "Gerd Möllmann" <gerd.moellmann@gmail.com>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,
pipcet@protonmail.com, spd@toadstyle.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: igc, macOS avoiding signals
Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2024 10:51:30 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87h66kfae5.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m25xn0mcq4.fsf@gmail.com> ("Gerd Möllmann"'s message of "Tue, 31 Dec 2024 10:19:15 +0100")
On Tue, Dec 31 2024, Gerd Möllmann wrote:
> Helmut Eller <eller.helmut@gmail.com> writes:
[...]
>> Except the POSIX police: it says that pthread_mutex_trylock isn't async
>> signal safe. I suppose this also makes it's unsafe to use MPS's fault
>> handler in an async signal handler. Bummer. (Does the police take
>> bribes?)
[...]
> So we have this picture, I think
>
> t1 t2 t3
> ------------|------------|---------------------|-----------------> t
> signal pthread other stuff signal handler
> handler trylock until return to branching
> calling signal handler on result of busy
> mps_arena_
> busy
>
> We have a window [t1, t2] where the nested signals lead to undefined
> behavior. and [t2, t3] where threads and nested signals can come into
> play, but that's not a problem, iff signal handlers don't leave a lock
> behind them.
>
> Hm. Have you perhaps looked at a pthread implementation, what such a
> mutex actually is on Linux?
Judging from the source here
https://sourceware.org/git/?p=glibc.git;a=blob_plain;f=sysdeps/nptl/bits/struct_mutex.h;hb=HEAD
and here
https://sourceware.org/git/?p=glibc.git;a=blob_plain;f=nptl/pthread_mutex_trylock.c;hb=HEAD
I would say that the mutex is a struct with multiple fields and that
pthread_mutex_trylock is neither a syscall nor an atomic instruction.
The struct may simply be in an inconsistent state at the time t0, the
beginning of the SIGPROF handler.
Helmut
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2024-12-28 13:24 igc, macOS avoiding signals Sean Devlin
2024-12-28 13:28 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-28 14:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-28 14:45 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-30 7:13 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-30 7:23 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-30 7:39 ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-30 7:51 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-30 8:02 ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-30 8:47 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-30 9:29 ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-30 9:47 ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-30 11:54 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-30 10:05 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-30 10:27 ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-30 11:53 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-30 14:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-30 15:05 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-30 15:05 ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-30 12:32 ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-30 14:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-30 14:59 ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-30 15:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-30 15:24 ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-30 15:25 ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-30 15:34 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-30 19:02 ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-30 20:03 ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-30 15:30 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-30 16:57 ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-30 17:41 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-30 17:49 ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-30 18:33 ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-30 17:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-30 18:37 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-30 19:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-30 19:55 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-31 7:34 ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-31 9:19 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-31 9:51 ` Helmut Eller [this message]
2024-12-31 10:00 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-31 13:49 ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-31 14:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-31 9:51 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-31 13:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-31 14:15 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-31 14:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-31 15:05 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-31 15:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-31 15:20 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-31 15:12 ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-31 15:31 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-31 15:37 ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-31 15:39 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-31 10:09 ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-31 13:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-31 14:29 ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-31 14:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-31 15:08 ` Gerd Möllmann
2025-01-03 18:37 ` Helmut Eller
2025-01-03 19:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-31 15:07 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-31 13:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-31 14:19 ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-31 14:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-31 14:40 ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-31 14:55 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-31 15:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-31 15:13 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-31 15:16 ` Helmut Eller
2025-01-02 8:37 ` Stefan Kangas
2025-01-02 9:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2025-01-02 10:00 ` Helmut Eller
2025-01-02 12:34 ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2025-01-02 13:08 ` Gerd Möllmann
2025-01-02 15:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2025-01-02 17:56 ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-30 12:42 ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-30 13:40 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-30 13:53 ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-30 14:02 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-30 14:32 ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-30 14:52 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-30 11:18 ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-30 12:23 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-30 11:11 ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-30 12:13 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-30 10:53 ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-30 10:46 ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-30 12:00 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-30 12:07 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-28 15:12 ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-28 17:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-28 18:40 ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-28 18:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-28 19:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-28 19:20 ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-28 19:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-28 20:54 ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-29 5:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-28 19:15 ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-28 19:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-28 16:29 ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-29 2:21 ` Sean Devlin
2024-12-29 12:22 ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-29 15:01 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-29 19:44 ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-30 6:16 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-30 12:51 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-30 13:09 ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-30 13:28 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-30 5:24 ` Sean Devlin
2024-12-30 6:17 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-30 5:23 ` Sean Devlin
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2024-12-28 6:40 Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-28 12:49 ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-28 12:55 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-28 13:50 ` Óscar Fuentes
2024-12-29 8:02 ` Helmut Eller
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