From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: UCS-2BE Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2006 02:45:33 +0300 Organization: JURTA Message-ID: <87fyfb6uy5.fsf@jurta.org> References: <878xl5x4lr.fsf@jurta.org> <44F6A74A.9040708@gnu.org> <44F6BC5B.8010504@gnu.org> <87ac5ko50j.fsf@jurta.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1157154884 30673 80.91.229.2 (1 Sep 2006 23:54:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2006 23:54:44 +0000 (UTC) Cc: schwab@suse.de, jasonr@gnu.org, mituharu@math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Sep 02 01:54:42 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GJIqO-0008VF-UE for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 02 Sep 2006 01:54:41 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GJIqO-0001Hn-K7 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 01 Sep 2006 19:54:40 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GJIqA-0001Fi-Gc for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Sep 2006 19:54:26 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GJIq8-0001Eo-IO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Sep 2006 19:54:25 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GJIq8-0001Eb-8S for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Sep 2006 19:54:24 -0400 Original-Received: from [62.64.120.197] (helo=relay02.kiev.sovam.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GJIzy-0007Xa-SM; Fri, 01 Sep 2006 20:04:35 -0400 Original-Received: from [83.170.232.243] (helo=smtp.svitonline.com) by relay02.kiev.sovam.com with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1GJIps-000ClW-JN; Sat, 02 Sep 2006 02:54:09 +0300 Original-To: Kenichi Handa In-Reply-To: (Kenichi Handa's message of "Fri, 01 Sep 2006 21:26:59 +0900") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110004 (No Gnus v0.4) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Scanner-Signature: 0a21689c2f1d2e94d8aa83f1a1b60733 X-DrWeb-checked: yes X-SpamTest-Group-ID: 00000000 X-SpamTest-Info: Profiles 232 [August 31 2006] X-SpamTest-Info: {received from trusted relay: not dialup} X-SpamTest-Method: none X-SpamTest-Method: Local Lists X-SpamTest-Rate: 0 X-SpamTest-Status: Not detected X-SpamTest-Status-Extended: not_detected X-SpamTest-Version: SMTP-Filter Version 3.0.0 [0242], KAS30/Release X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:59239 Archived-At: > Ah! So here we can see the term "UCS-2BE" as CES. But how > it was defined? (I don't have Unicode 1.1) You can buy the specification for 114 Swiss francs ;-) http://www.iso.ch/iso/en/CatalogueDetailPage.CatalogueDetail?CSNUMBER=39921 > It seems that UCS-2BE is not a mis-label of UTF-16BE, then, > it seems that treating it as a subset (not using surrogate > pair) of UTF-16BE (as done in iconv) is the right thing. I have the same understanding. > I'll try to implement it (and others) in emacs-unicode-2. Is it reasonable to use the iconv library in Emacs (to not reimplement its encodings)? > By the way, why do people want such many variants... sigh... There are still some standards (e.g. in the telecom industry) that are based on the old encodings. I understood so that UCS-2 is an obsolete encoding and will be replaced gradually by UTF-16. -- Juri Linkov http://www.jurta.org/emacs/