From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dieter Wilhelm Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Arrowless navigation Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 11:42:32 +0200 Organization: The Church of Emacs Message-ID: <87fydp6hkn.fsf@hans.local.net> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1160909577 27931 80.91.229.2 (15 Oct 2006 10:52:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 10:52:57 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Oct 15 12:52:56 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GZ3br-0005xQ-L5 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 12:52:47 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GZ3br-0007n7-0M for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 06:52:47 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GZ3Gd-0008S1-Nn for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 06:30:52 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GZ3GZ-0008Pr-UO for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 06:30:50 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GZ3GX-0008P5-4J for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 06:30:45 -0400 Original-Received: from [212.227.126.187] (helo=moutng.kundenserver.de) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GZ3PP-0002jz-5R for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 06:39:55 -0400 Original-Received: from [84.167.25.208] (helo=duenenhof-wilhelm.de) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrelayeu6) with ESMTP (Nemesis), id 0ML29c-1GZ3GK0rAJ-00006s; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 12:30:35 +0200 Original-Received: by duenenhof-wilhelm.de (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 9EA61467DD; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 11:42:32 +0200 (CEST) Original-To: dkcombs@panix.com (David Combs) In-Reply-To: (David Combs's message of "Sat\, 14 Oct 2006 23\:13\:13 +0000 \(UTC\)") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de login:d7ab225b98a136e1c2910381f940ecb9 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:38051 Archived-At: dkcombs@panix.com (David Combs) writes: > In article , > Dieter Wilhelm wrote: >>Jochem Huhmann writes: >> >>> Xavier Maillard writes: >>> >>>> What is the tip with left control key exactly (which is useless >>>> here -ie. I never use it) ? >>> >>> For me the Control key on the lower left corner of the keyboard is in >>> the perfect place. I don't need even a finger to press and hold it, I >>> just tilt down my hand to the left and press with my hand at the base >>> joint of my pinky. Leaves all ten fingers free for typing. >>> >> >>Yes that's the way to go (for touch typists) it leaves your fingers in >>the home position. But I think it's more natural (and more symmetric >>in the line of the shift key and capital letters) when you are also >>using the right CTRL key. For example C-f is done with the outside of >>your right bale on the right CTRL key and of course with the left > > ^^^^ -- "bale" -- what's that? (Not in my dictionary, > other than like "a bale of hay"). > I'm very sorry, this was a confusion of the German translation of bale -- (Heu)-Ballen but I meant (Hand)-Ballen which can be abbreviated to the same word.=20=20 What I meant to use is the portion of the palm (at the side, beneath the little finger). I looked it up in Wikipedia and I found hypothenar as the proper word for the group of muscles there. Thanks for pointing me to this mistake (it's a risk learning a language by dictionaries). Might be helpful for my German compatriots: Handfl=C3=A4che -- palm Handballen -- the ball of the hand Kleinfingerballen -- hypothenar Daumenballen -- thenar --=20 Best wishes H. Dieter Wilhelm Darmstadt, Germany