From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dieter Wilhelm Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs manual mentioning thumbs mode but not tumme Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 20:50:17 +0200 Organization: The Church of Emacs Message-ID: <87fy70xifq.fsf@debby.local.net> References: <87slb8szz9.fsf@debby.local.net> <17947.65334.841905.101671@farnswood.snap.net.nz> <17949.22877.645175.478069@farnswood.snap.net.nz> <17950.43941.498605.877229@farnswood.snap.net.nz> <876481t7mu.fsf@debby.local.net> <7dbe73ed0704130201n1c365d4cy9635c1e84886a710@mail.gmail.com> <87wt0frzs0.fsf@debby.local.net> <87y7ktif0n.fsf@debby.local.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1176749464 3267 80.91.229.12 (16 Apr 2007 18:51:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 18:51:04 +0000 (UTC) Cc: nickrob@snap.net.nz, emacs-devel@gnu.org, mathias.dahl@gmail.com To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Apr 16 20:50:57 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1HdWHx-0004EY-He for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 16 Apr 2007 20:50:57 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HdWMa-00044G-LP for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 16 Apr 2007 14:55:44 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HdWMW-00043x-Cs for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 16 Apr 2007 14:55:40 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HdWMR-0003zB-KZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 16 Apr 2007 14:55:38 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HdWMR-0003z8-EX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 16 Apr 2007 14:55:35 -0400 Original-Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de ([212.227.126.179]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1HdWHm-0007je-D8; Mon, 16 Apr 2007 14:50:46 -0400 Original-Received: from [84.167.23.2] (helo=debby.local.net) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrelayeu8) with ESMTP (Nemesis), id 0ML31I-1HdWHc0ivw-0005xZ; Mon, 16 Apr 2007 20:50:39 +0200 Original-Received: from dieter by debby.local.net with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HdWHJ-0000zO-IS; Mon, 16 Apr 2007 20:50:17 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Mon\, 16 Apr 2007 11\:38\:45 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.95 (gnu/linux) X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+gDsUYxnmhg+0nPfrEs1tlp6BYXuO/+TJTWUj eC7k1K2rha3wA6nzXfpguXkLssVnMwv0cwjQ9OTkM0AMy1Gdur Jk58dsK0+WQXmAWrJ2Kj/9hv6LbBeKM X-detected-kernel: Linux 2.6? (barebone, rare!) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:69505 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > Not so when the explanation for the existence of thumbs is so concise. > The user is guided and recommended to tumme and in one sentence you > could mention thumbs as an alternative for image viewing. The user > has then the option to experiment. > > That IS a conceptual cost. It means that instead of a simple and > clear recommendation, we say "maybe this, maybe that." > Users can find this confusing. In the contrary, you should give a simple and clear recommendation: "tumme" and you could say, by recognising that we are not living in an ideal, logical world but in a world were some things are also a matter of taste, that "thumbs" has evolved as an alternative (for dauntless and inquisitive minds ;-)). -- Best wishes H. Dieter Wilhelm Darmstadt, Germany