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From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" <turnbull@sk.tsukuba.ac.jp>
To: "Juanma Barranquero" <lekktu@gmail.com>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
	rms@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Don't concat directories to file names
Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 09:16:29 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87fy4fd0yq.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f7ccd24b0706251123u43f024efyb66eefbf6f226135@mail.gmail.com>

Juanma Barranquero writes:

 > I know, I'm even using `directory-file-name' in The Function Without A
 > Name. But Emacs users and developers apparently don't, if they don't
 > balk at the idea of a function *-file returning the path (cough, the
 > filename, I mean) of a directory.

It's not globally consistent, of course.

As with many other concepts in Emacs there is a confusion between
objects, names for objects, and handles (references) to objects.
Consider fonts and coding systems.  (XEmacs actually has font objects
and coding system objects, but I have yet to see a case where the
distinction between a symbol naming such an object and the actual
object is useful.)

Consider that Emacs doesn't have a notion of file handle.  What serves
for a file handle in Emacs is a buffer visiting a file.  Thus the
distinction between the verbs "find" and "locate", which serves the
same kind of purpose with complete different syntax.

I don't mean to argue that you're "wrong" (how could you be?  this is
definitely a YMMV kinda thang :-).  Nor does this directly address the
PATH-style path vs. URL-style path issue.  This helps me to
rationalize it, that's all.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-06-26  0:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-06-13 16:22 Don't concat directories to file names Richard Stallman
2007-06-14 15:16 ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-06-14 17:10   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2007-06-14 21:12     ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-06-15  1:50       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2007-06-15  7:55         ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-06-15  9:15     ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-06-15 10:20       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2007-06-15 11:21         ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-06-15 14:19           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2007-06-15 16:27             ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-06-15 18:09               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2007-06-15 14:33           ` Stefan Monnier
2007-06-15 16:39             ` Miles Bader
2007-06-15 16:41               ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-06-16  0:38                 ` Miles Bader
2007-06-16  0:50                   ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-06-16  3:28                   ` Stefan Monnier
2007-06-16  3:30                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-06-16  4:53                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2007-06-15 22:45               ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-15 23:25                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-06-16 18:50                   ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-16 19:20                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-06-16 20:19                       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2007-06-17 12:36                     ` Stefan Monnier
2007-06-18  7:25                       ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-18  7:38                         ` David Kastrup
2007-06-20 13:29                           ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-20 13:39                             ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-06-20 14:29                               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2007-06-20 14:59                                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-06-21  1:07                                 ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-21  8:08                                   ` Kai Grossjohann
2007-06-21  8:23                                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-06-22  1:51                                     ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-22  7:55                                       ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-06-22 18:51                                         ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-22 18:51                                         ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-25  9:59                                           ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-06-25 14:33                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2007-06-25 14:51                                               ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-06-25 14:54                                                 ` David Kastrup
2007-06-25 15:00                                                   ` David Kastrup
2007-06-25 16:27                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-06-25 18:23                                                   ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-06-25 18:32                                                     ` David Kastrup
2007-06-25 18:46                                                       ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-06-26  0:16                                                     ` Stephen J. Turnbull [this message]
2007-06-25 16:29                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-06-25 18:27                                                   ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-06-25 19:49                                                     ` Andreas Schwab
2007-06-25 20:35                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-06-25 20:39                                                       ` David Kastrup
2007-06-25 20:58                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-06-25 15:46                                             ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-21  1:07                               ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-21  2:24                                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2007-06-21  8:11                                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-06-21  8:23                                   ` David Kastrup
2007-06-21  8:46                                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-06-16  5:16                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2007-06-16 18:50                   ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-15 16:40             ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-06-14 19:51   ` Tom Tromey
2007-06-14 21:17     ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-06-14 21:32       ` Stefan Monnier
2007-06-14 21:39         ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-06-15  7:29       ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-06-15  7:56         ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-06-14 19:40 ` Tom Tromey

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