From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Scratch buffer annoyance Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 00:01:47 +0300 Organization: JURTA Message-ID: <87fy1wn4ue.fsf@jurta.org> References: <85sl6o3rj1.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <873aykml2v.fsf@jurta.org> <87bqd744yp.fsf@jurta.org> <87tzqv1sui.fsf@jurta.org> <87ir7bnm97.fsf@jurta.org> <87absl7sdo.fsf@jurta.org> <87tzqrt8ts.fsf@jurta.org> <87wsvjadfq.fsf@jurta.org> <87d4x9ewfz.fsf@jurta.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1188768140 15646 80.91.229.12 (2 Sep 2007 21:22:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 21:22:20 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rgm@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Sep 02 23:22:18 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IRwtV-0000qx-BS for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 02 Sep 2007 23:22:09 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IRwtU-0003cr-5K for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 02 Sep 2007 17:22:08 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IRwtP-0003aU-I3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 02 Sep 2007 17:22:03 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IRwtN-0003Ym-Mx for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 02 Sep 2007 17:22:02 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IRwtN-0003Yj-Fe for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 02 Sep 2007 17:22:01 -0400 Original-Received: from relay02.kiev.sovam.com ([62.64.120.197]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IRwtF-0002U2-Jw; Sun, 02 Sep 2007 17:21:54 -0400 Original-Received: from [83.170.232.243] (helo=smtp.svitonline.com) by relay02.kiev.sovam.com with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1IRwt4-000Nwy-PC; Mon, 03 Sep 2007 00:21:51 +0300 In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Mon\, 27 Aug 2007 14\:17\:56 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/23.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Scanner-Signature: d0b3bc0b24c4067239780ad28ae5b444 X-DrWeb-checked: yes X-SpamTest-Envelope-From: juri@jurta.org X-SpamTest-Group-ID: 00000000 X-SpamTest-Header: Not Detected X-SpamTest-Info: Profiles 1426 [August 31 2007] X-SpamTest-Info: helo_type=3 X-SpamTest-Info: {HEADERS: header Content-Type found without required header Content-Transfer-Encoding} X-SpamTest-Method: none X-SpamTest-Rate: 10 X-SpamTest-Status: Not detected X-SpamTest-Status-Extended: not_detected X-SpamTest-Version: SMTP-Filter Version 3.0.0 [0255], KAS30/Release X-Detected-Kernel: FreeBSD 4.8-5.1 (or MacOS X 10.2-10.3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:77620 Archived-At: > If not using an Info file and not using automatically alternating screens, > I see no better UI than clicking on tabs to switch between screens. > This is how many programs display information on the About page. > > Is this acceptable? > > The problem it is solving is obsolete. We already decided to remove > the help commands from About, thus shortening it and reducing it to > one screen. As many programs usually contain 4 pages on the About screen: "Authors", "Licence", "Report Bug" and "How to Contribute", Emacs could do the same even without using Info files (which are not always available). There are 4 files in the root directory of the Emacs tree that exactly correspond to these 4 pages: AUTHORS, COPYING, BUGS and CONTRIBUTE. On the About screen we could add 4 links to these files clicking on which will open the file in another window (using `find-file-other-window'). Unfortunately, it seems that these files don't always get into Emacs distributions. At least, I can't find them on Debian. Maybe this is because these files are not in the etc directory. What about moving/copying them to etc where they can be found by `data-directory'? -- Juri Linkov http://www.jurta.org/emacs/