From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: New start up splash screen annoyance... Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 02:52:52 +0300 Organization: JURTA Message-ID: <87fy1nbe4f.fsf@jurta.org> References: <87sl5n5yem.fsf@stupidchicken.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1189384230 3974 80.91.229.12 (10 Sep 2007 00:30:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 00:30:30 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Sascha Wilde , rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Chong Yidong Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Sep 10 10:30:17 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IUeKz-0000yo-Qr for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 10 Sep 2007 10:09:42 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IUWqd-0002sd-BQ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 09 Sep 2007 20:09:51 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IUWpm-0002YK-T9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Sep 2007 20:08:58 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IUWpk-0002Wm-JH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Sep 2007 20:08:57 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IUWpk-0002WX-Cn for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Sep 2007 20:08:56 -0400 Original-Received: from relay01.kiev.sovam.com ([62.64.120.200]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IUWpf-0004uA-10; Sun, 09 Sep 2007 20:08:51 -0400 Original-Received: from [83.170.232.243] (helo=smtp.svitonline.com) by relay01.kiev.sovam.com with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1IUWpU-0007xK-Aa; Mon, 10 Sep 2007 03:08:48 +0300 In-Reply-To: <87sl5n5yem.fsf@stupidchicken.com> (Chong Yidong's message of "Sun\, 09 Sep 2007 17\:20\:17 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/23.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Scanner-Signature: 88f972a75cd389d721acc69b695bb680 X-DrWeb-checked: yes X-SpamTest-Envelope-From: juri@jurta.org X-SpamTest-Group-ID: 00000000 X-SpamTest-Header: Not Detected X-SpamTest-Info: Profiles 1448 [September 7 2007] X-SpamTest-Info: helo_type=3 X-SpamTest-Info: {HEADERS: header Content-Type found without required header Content-Transfer-Encoding} X-SpamTest-Method: none X-SpamTest-Rate: 10 X-SpamTest-Status: Not detected X-SpamTest-Status-Extended: not_detected X-SpamTest-Version: SMTP-Filter Version 3.0.0 [0255], KAS30/Release X-Detected-Kernel: FreeBSD 4.8-5.1 (or MacOS X 10.2-10.3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:78368 Archived-At: > The way Emacs currently handles the splash screen is completely > unsatisfactory, because it gives the impression that the splash screen > is being displayed *instead of* the file specified by the user (and > thus implies that Emacs is unable to process command line arguments.) Yes, this looks like a bug, and this is confusing for beginners who don't know how to turn this behavior off. > The way other programs handle this is to (1) display the splash screen > in a small, floating X window, Clicking on the close button to close the floating X window is no less annoying solution that typing a key to close the current startup screen. > (2) provide a check box on the splash screen saying "Display splash > screen on startup" or something similar, and Now there is a link on the startup screen leading to customization, so it is easier now to disable the startup screen. But still this doesn't remove the problem, because customization is not always desirable. -- Juri Linkov http://www.jurta.org/emacs/