From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Thorsten Bonow Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Newbie programmer beginning to use Emacs, Help! Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 21:31:04 +0100 Message-ID: <87fxy1jc6v.fsf@post.rwth-aachen.de> References: <241a8525-2573-474b-8b4d-b4493a6596b8@i12g2000prf.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-jp X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1197924062 2221 80.91.229.12 (17 Dec 2007 20:41:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 20:41:02 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Dec 17 21:41:13 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1J4Mln-0007EX-8g for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 17 Dec 2007 21:40:59 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J4MlU-0000px-0p for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 17 Dec 2007 15:40:40 -0500 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!news.dfncis.de!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 41 Original-X-Trace: news.dfncis.de AvgxhG/gyZy3x5iLkgH2hgyuxjkmLUPvCobuu3XKFXj8+9xTwaymYrgCWE Cancel-Lock: sha1:bfsnsmIVjkBlPoee3qPMkOPxObU= sha1:BBqGE35fpumRXp1FGQ+SO3tnFr4= User-Agent: Gnus/5.1008 (Gnus v5.10.8) XEmacs/21.4.21 (linux) Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:154729 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:50154 Archived-At: >>>>> "Xah" == Xah Lee writes: Xah> 1. What is the "Meta" key (I couldn't find a definition that makes Xah> sense in documentation anywhere)? I'm using a HP Pavillion dv9428nr Xah> laptop running win xp pro and Emacs v22.1.1」 [long text cut in which Xah laboriously fails to explain that the Meta-Key is normally the "Alt" key left to your space bar or the ESC key (top left)] Xah> 「3. What exactly is 'Dired Mode'?」 [...] [long text cut in which Xah fails (again) to see that Emacs tries to be consistent with---ahem---Emacs and not some other software] Xah> 「2. How to enter a command like ftp mysite.net user:ad...@mysite.net Xah> password:admin_password, so that I can work on files from my web server」 [long text cut which---surprisingly for someone who is campaigning for so long for the "modernisation of emacs"---describes an outdated method: use "tramp"] You should know that Xah has an agenda. Form an opinion of your own if you want to listen to him or just start with the Emacs tutorial: "Ctrl-h t" (That is pressing the Ctrl and h key together, then press t for tutorial.) Or read the Emacs manual. Both the tutorial and the manual are available from the "Help" menu. Since so much is explained in the manual, I'm surprised that you claim to have read what you could find. Hope this helps. Toto -- Contact information and PGP key at http://www-users.rwth-aachen.de/thorsten.bonow Good evening. This is the intergalactic operator. Can I help you? Rah Band: Clouds across the moon.