From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Miles Bader Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs Subject: Re: Crashes with non-default language environments Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 00:16:54 +0900 Message-ID: <87fxvzbk0p.fsf@catnip.gol.com> References: <87y79wve9b.fsf@jurta.org> <87zlu96bp2.fsf@jurta.org> <87prv4l96f.fsf@jurta.org> <87lk5scl3a.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <874pcgceu5.fsf@catnip.gol.com> Reply-To: Miles Bader NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1202743077 4543 80.91.229.12 (11 Feb 2008 15:17:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 15:17:57 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Juri Linkov , emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Feb 11 16:18:19 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JOaPn-0004eI-IW for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 11 Feb 2008 16:17:51 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JOaPK-0001fc-6H for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 11 Feb 2008 10:17:22 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JOaP7-0001WX-8Q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Feb 2008 10:17:09 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JOaP4-0001Tr-Id for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Feb 2008 10:17:08 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JOaP4-0001TY-CB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Feb 2008 10:17:06 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JOaP4-0001w8-6J for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Feb 2008 10:17:06 -0500 Original-Received: from mx10.gnu.org ([199.232.76.166]) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1JOaP3-000379-SF for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Feb 2008 10:17:05 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JOaP0-0001vD-LO for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Feb 2008 10:17:05 -0500 Original-Received: from smtp11.dentaku.gol.com ([203.216.5.73]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JOaP0-0001uN-2d; Mon, 11 Feb 2008 10:17:02 -0500 Original-Received: from 203-216-97-023.dsl.gol.ne.jp ([203.216.97.23] helo=catnip.gol.com) by smtp11.dentaku.gol.com with esmtpa (Dentaku) id 1JOaOx-0004xh-AD; Tue, 12 Feb 2008 00:16:59 +0900 Original-Received: by catnip.gol.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id F12B72FF7; Tue, 12 Feb 2008 00:16:54 +0900 (JST) System-Type: i686-pc-linux-gnu In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Mon, 11 Feb 2008 09:06:01 -0500") Original-Lines: 17 X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV GOL (outbound) X-Abuse-Complaints: abuse@gol.com X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:88758 gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs:21031 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: >> What's really wanted here, is something like >> vector-to-raw-string-dont-you-dare-do-any-encoding, right? >> [As the bytecode engine wants raw bytes with the same numbers, which >> just happened to be inside a string] > > The problem is that "no encoding" means different things to > different people. Ok, perhaps `vector-to-raw-string-whose-bytes-in-memory-should-have-exactly-the-same-values-as-the-elements-of-this-vector'. -Miles -- Logic, n. The art of thinking and reasoning in strict accordance with the limitations and incapacities of the human misunderstanding.