From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Chong Yidong Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs-devel Digest, Vol 52, Issue 61 Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2008 10:20:37 -0400 Message-ID: <87fxrpz5qi.fsf@stupidchicken.com> References: <20080607125159.8A74F9F05B4@grelber.thyrsus.com> <20080607132037.GA21979@thyrsus.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1212848457 24574 80.91.229.12 (7 Jun 2008 14:20:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 14:20:57 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: esr@thyrsus.com Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jun 07 16:21:38 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1K4zIT-00073A-W3 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 07 Jun 2008 16:21:34 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37819 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1K4zHg-0008DZ-UP for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 07 Jun 2008 10:20:44 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1K4zHd-0008D5-5M for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Jun 2008 10:20:41 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1K4zHa-0008Cm-RB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Jun 2008 10:20:39 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=36695 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1K4zHa-0008Cj-Lm for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Jun 2008 10:20:38 -0400 Original-Received: from c-98-216-111-182.hsd1.ma.comcast.net ([98.216.111.182]:10700 helo=furry) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1K4zHa-0006QI-EF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Jun 2008 10:20:38 -0400 Original-Received: by furry (Postfix, from userid 1000) id DBF27C055; Sat, 7 Jun 2008 10:20:37 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <20080607132037.GA21979@thyrsus.com> (Eric S. Raymond's message of "Sat, 7 Jun 2008 09:20:37 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:98583 Archived-At: "Eric S. Raymond" writes: >> OK. I have an utterly standard, if somewhat old, GNU/Linux box, probably >> the most popular setup. I think it's reasonable to expect the trunk to >> build on my box nearly all the time. Possibly on w32, too. > > I agree with this complaint, and I'm getting extremely frustrated. I > have been unable to work on vc.el for about *two weeks* now because > the recommended "make maintainer-clean; configure; make bootstrap" > consistently fails with this: > > make[3]: *** No rule to make target `/home/esr/cvs/emacs/lisp/nxml/nxml-enc.elc', needed by `compile-main'. Stop. > > This is on stock Ubuntu 8.04. Whoever said expecting builds in CVS to > work consistently was "hopelessly unrealistic" is simply revealing that the > Emacs system is broken as designed. Maybe this is a *reason* we have so > few developers? I haven't encountered this problem, and I'm using the same system. Try updating using `cvs up -Pd'.