From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: adding consistent extra symbols to input methods (cyrillic-*, croatian-*, slov*, czech-* etc.) input methods Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 00:27:35 +0300 Organization: JURTA Message-ID: <87fxqd4te3.fsf@jurta.org> References: <86lk19mmua.fsf@lifelogs.com> <485298A4.30000@gnu.org> <867ict8awn.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87tzfvj16y.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <86lk12zee7.fsf@lifelogs.com> <86r6acqbif.fsf@lifelogs.com> <864p76lp60.fsf_-_@lifelogs.com> <87ej66ubkv.fsf@jurta.org> <8763rh73l5.fsf@jurta.org> <87ej5yqs5j.fsf@catnip.gol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1215985488 23706 80.91.229.12 (13 Jul 2008 21:44:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 21:44:48 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , handa@m17n.org, tzz@lifelogs.com, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Miles Bader Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jul 13 23:45:33 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KI9Nq-0005fU-9g for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 13 Jul 2008 23:45:30 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35720 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KI9My-0000U6-BE for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 13 Jul 2008 17:44:36 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KI9LW-0007ym-I7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Jul 2008 17:43:06 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KI9LU-0007xu-Bd for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Jul 2008 17:43:05 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=53947 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KI9LU-0007xm-4u for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Jul 2008 17:43:04 -0400 Original-Received: from relay02.kiev.sovam.com ([62.64.120.197]:54299) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KI9LL-0000JQ-48; Sun, 13 Jul 2008 17:42:55 -0400 Original-Received: from [83.170.232.243] (helo=smtp.svitonline.com) by relay02.kiev.sovam.com with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1KI9LG-000E84-Jz; Mon, 14 Jul 2008 00:42:50 +0300 In-Reply-To: <87ej5yqs5j.fsf@catnip.gol.com> (Miles Bader's message of "Sun, 13 Jul 2008 14:17:44 +0900") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) X-Scanner-Signature: 1e897a521fdb5eac39b1f944f187ca57 X-DrWeb-checked: yes X-SpamTest-Envelope-From: juri@jurta.org X-SpamTest-Group-ID: 00000000 X-SpamTest-Header: Trusted X-SpamTest-Info: Profiles 4303 [July 13 2008] X-SpamTest-Info: {received from trusted relay: common white list} X-SpamTest-Info: {HEADERS: header Content-Type found without required header Content-Transfer-Encoding} X-SpamTest-Method: white ip list X-SpamTest-Rate: 10 X-SpamTest-Status: Trusted X-SpamTest-Status-Extended: trusted X-SpamTest-Version: SMTP-Filter Version 3.0.0 [0278], KAS30/Release X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: FreeBSD 6.x (1) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:100651 Archived-At: >> There's no space on the mode line for such long indicators. I think >> we should rather display some special character there, meaning that >> several methods are active, and only list all of them in the tooltip >> that pops when the mouse is hovering above that indicator. > > Since currently it shows a single character for the input method, how > about just appending a "+" in the case where there are others active as > well... > > This presumes that one is the "main" input method, and others are > "subsidiary", but that seems likely to be true in many (most?) cases, > and it's certainly more useful than _only_ displaying a "+" or > something... As `list-input-methods' shows, there is only one input method with a "+" in its name: "ucs" ("U+" in the mode line). But since a "+" is a good indicator for additional input methods, so perhaps it is not a big problem when it will be displayed as "U++". PS: I could submit a patch that provides UI for using multiple input methods after Handa-san will install multi-input-method-function and other related code, possibly renaming to better names. I propose the following changes in names: activate-preposition-input-method -> activate-additional-input-method inactivate-preposition-input-method -> inactivate-additional-input-method local-input-method-list -> current-additional-input-method-list global-input-method-list -> remove this variable since there is no global variant of `current-input-method'. -- Juri Linkov http://www.jurta.org/emacs/