From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Paul R Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: How to get rid of *GNU Emacs* buffer on start-up? Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 11:46:30 +0200 Message-ID: <87fxni7yq1.fsf@gmail.com> References: <87ljxoffs6.fsf@atthis.clsnet.nl> <71208e97-140c-445d-8eda-1705f11b14b3@r15g2000prd.googlegroups.com> <095ef0c0-c7f4-494d-8bf6-8a5ee43fd934@i20g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <3c61c357-0705-4ff4-b793-fa6827415fdd@n38g2000prl.googlegroups.com> <4fr5r5-jnp.ln1@invalid.net> <7d4066c0-df52-4b06-b206-03e805df2192@a18g2000pra.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1222768212 25285 80.91.229.12 (30 Sep 2008 09:50:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 09:50:12 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Chetan Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Sep 30 11:51:03 2008 connect(): Connection refused Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Kkbsd-0002KD-U5 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 11:50:56 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42033 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Kkbrb-0000cT-27 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 05:49:51 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KkboZ-0007WS-T1 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 05:46:44 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KkboW-0007US-PJ for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 05:46:42 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=57951 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KkboW-0007UA-IQ for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 05:46:40 -0400 Original-Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com ([66.249.92.173]:31737) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KkboW-0000tT-Nv for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 05:46:41 -0400 Original-Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id z36so726296uge.17 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 02:46:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:to:cc:subject:references:from :date:in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=UsomGO/hIFi16G8KEHgsUY3JQAqTpUArvQjvjC5kLUA=; b=WtDvHt9SgzUWQakw50gws3AAek9EWItC4K58QIZWqcz0RFNgdonsVMPsrewIY6oFN2 rP6WwyUay56qgYHfzHO3+PifhFpMDigW8Zue1znX0SEcw+jBVypwJgUoGsxddDFkD1xQ FGCNBXl5X+K9Ezq/s5d2+5Df6iwtelx4WbjDM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=to:cc:subject:references:from:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type; b=bon9iE/XMHz7kBSExIFLig2luT5XJjeARHHyouY5/1Ndw1YRHMbDTABaUG9VTW6BH3 wdvaT3Enwlr+l5KnpOJQwjaE4s0Q15PUijY1pjLeDU8nwhzUt75NwX5/44emj1n6pZ58 xwC5MJ/yDdWtbCg1PcaIB8pIsSccNocPuBrLw= Original-Received: by 10.103.214.8 with SMTP id r8mr4651502muq.64.1222767999066; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 02:46:39 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from ubuT42 (pdc35-1-82-242-132-111.fbx.proxad.net [82.242.132.111]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id y2sm7148051mug.2.2008.09.30.02.46.36 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 30 Sep 2008 02:46:37 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: (Chetan's message of "Mon\, 29 Sep 2008 09\:56\:22 -0700") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.2 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:58225 Archived-At: On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 09:56:22 -0700, Chetan said: Chetan> It looks like it is difficult to get everyone to agree on what Chetan> is needed. Isn't it better to create addons that people can Chetan> install if they so desire? That way there is no immediate Chetan> change forced onto the users. The addons that are popular can Chetan> later be incorporated into main. Emacs is the most extensible and the most community-extended software created ever. This thread is about *defaults*, because defaults drive user habits, because defaults are why most people stick to a software or give up in the first few days, because defaults are the reflect of an evolving mindset amongst core developers. There is absolutly no problem to extend emacs and to customize it for your needs. It is great for that already. -- Paul