From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: files.el: Patch to make project-settings optional/customizable Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 01:31:51 +0200 Organization: JURTA Message-ID: <87fxlo3920.fsf@jurta.org> References: <5f0ff9220811130629t505badf9kb1bcc380df89a08f@mail.gmail.com> <87y6zn4pqw.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> <200811131607.mADG71u6010167@mothra.ics.uci.edu> <200811131619.mADGJukm010206@mothra.ics.uci.edu> <87prkz4kgh.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> <200811131728.mADHSH2M010654@mothra.ics.uci.edu> <871vxflbxb.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> <200811131848.mADImPMQ011099@mothra.ics.uci.edu> <200811181636.mAIGa9Lx000571@mothra.ics.uci.edu> <87prks6693.fsf@jurta.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1227051422 32541 80.91.229.12 (18 Nov 2008 23:37:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 23:37:02 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Tom Tromey , "T.V. Raman" , Dan Nicolaescu , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Nov 19 00:38:03 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1L2a8w-0004ex-6M for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 19 Nov 2008 00:38:02 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44590 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1L2a7n-0005az-K6 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 18 Nov 2008 18:36:51 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1L2a7j-0005ak-Kj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Nov 2008 18:36:47 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1L2a7h-0005aY-6s for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Nov 2008 18:36:46 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=51786 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1L2a7h-0005aT-1k for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Nov 2008 18:36:45 -0500 Original-Received: from relay02.kiev.sovam.com ([62.64.120.197]:50920) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1L2a7h-0000zy-5z for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Nov 2008 18:36:45 -0500 Original-Received: from [83.170.232.243] (helo=smtp.svitonline.com) by relay02.kiev.sovam.com with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1L2a7c-000Nfn-Bo; Wed, 19 Nov 2008 01:36:40 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Tue, 18 Nov 2008 17:59:31 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) X-Scanner-Signature: 068dd79c68aafbc760c35e97c5d420ed X-DrWeb-checked: yes X-SpamTest-Envelope-From: juri@jurta.org X-SpamTest-Group-ID: 00000000 X-SpamTest-Header: Trusted X-SpamTest-Info: Profiles 5762 [Nov 19 2008] X-SpamTest-Info: {received from trusted relay: common white list} X-SpamTest-Info: {HEADERS: header Content-Type found without required header Content-Transfer-Encoding} X-SpamTest-Method: white ip list X-SpamTest-Rate: 10 X-SpamTest-Status: Trusted X-SpamTest-Status-Extended: trusted X-SpamTest-Version: SMTP-Filter Version 3.0.0 [0278], KAS30/Release X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: FreeBSD 6.x (1) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:105794 Archived-At: >> I agree with Juanma that the name .dir-settings.el is "ugly as hell". >> Perhaps this is the reason why users want to customize it. > > The admin subdir "CVS" has a name that's very troublesome, yet CVS > offers no way to change it, and it's a good thing. > > If you want to change .dir-settings.el, the say so and re-open the > discussion about the choice. But making it customizable is wrong. I propose to do two things: 1. change `project-settings-file' from defcustom to defvar, thus making it non-customizable, but still leaving a way to modify it for knowledgeable people when necessary; 2. find a better file name that it both short and easy to connect to the Emacs feature that uses it. -- Juri Linkov http://www.jurta.org/emacs/