From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Moving to bzr? Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2009 20:07:35 +0900 Message-ID: <87fxjyxb7s.fsf@xemacs.org> References: <871vviif6s.fsf@xemacs.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1231153539 10708 80.91.229.12 (5 Jan 2009 11:05:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 11:05:39 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Lennart Borgman" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jan 05 12:06:50 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LJnIH-0001Bx-Jv for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 05 Jan 2009 12:06:49 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47503 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LJnH2-0005Jz-4Y for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 05 Jan 2009 06:05:32 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LJnGx-0005Jb-QX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Jan 2009 06:05:27 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LJnGw-0005JK-Vo for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Jan 2009 06:05:27 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=35089 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LJnGw-0005JD-RX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Jan 2009 06:05:26 -0500 Original-Received: from mtps02.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp ([130.158.97.224]:60840) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LJnGt-0003WN-SV; Mon, 05 Jan 2009 06:05:24 -0500 Original-Received: from uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.99.156]) by mtps02.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0146D7FFA; Mon, 5 Jan 2009 20:05:19 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: by uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D911B12706E; Mon, 5 Jan 2009 20:07:35 +0900 (JST) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: VM 8.0.12-devo-585 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" 83e35df20028+ XEmacs Lucid (x86_64-unknown-linux) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:107603 Archived-At: Lennart Borgman writes: > Does this mean bzr is unusable for w32 users (for a large project > like Emacs)? I have no opinion on that. You'll have to try it yourself. I don't use Windows, I'm just relaying or commenting on benchmark information reported by reliable people. Whether bzr is usable or not will depend heavily on whether your usage requires slow operations very often. I post because I have spent a lot of time evaluating DVCSes (for XEmacs in autumn 2007, for ESR's book project -- currently stalled -- in December 2007, and now for the Python DVCS PEP (I'm responsible for git information). It seems a shame to have emacs-devel go around in circles if I can contribute useful information. I use git daily (with so few complaints that I've never bothered to subscribe to the ML), also hg (which I don't like as much), and stay in touch with their recent documentation. They are high performance and in my usage the UIs are very stable, so I don't follow the mailing lists much. I do participate in the Darcs and Bazaar mailing lists (reading them on a daily basis), also GNU Arch (which is basically asleep). While I know that Stefan is occasionally visible on the Bazaar list, as is Karl Fogel, they don't seem to be as well-informed (or maybe they just don't have time to post about it here). FWIW YMMV.