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From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen@xemacs.org>
To: "Lennart Borgman" <lennart.borgman@gmail.com>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Moving to bzr?
Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2009 20:07:35 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87fxjyxb7s.fsf@xemacs.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e01d8a50901050148h5089f93bv150f3ee57966a238@mail.gmail.com>

Lennart Borgman writes:

 > Does this mean bzr is unusable for w32 users (for a large project
 > like Emacs)?

I have no opinion on that.  You'll have to try it yourself.  I don't
use Windows, I'm just relaying or commenting on benchmark information
reported by reliable people.  Whether bzr is usable or not will depend
heavily on whether your usage requires slow operations very often.

I post because I have spent a lot of time evaluating DVCSes (for
XEmacs in autumn 2007, for ESR's book project -- currently stalled --
in December 2007, and now for the Python DVCS PEP (I'm responsible for
git information).  It seems a shame to have emacs-devel go around in
circles if I can contribute useful information.

I use git daily (with so few complaints that I've never bothered to
subscribe to the ML), also hg (which I don't like as much), and stay
in touch with their recent documentation.  They are high performance
and in my usage the UIs are very stable, so I don't follow the mailing
lists much.

I do participate in the Darcs and Bazaar mailing lists (reading them
on a daily basis), also GNU Arch (which is basically asleep).  While I
know that Stefan is occasionally visible on the Bazaar list, as is
Karl Fogel, they don't seem to be as well-informed (or maybe they just
don't have time to post about it here).

FWIW YMMV.




  reply	other threads:[~2009-01-05 11:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 339+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-01-04 12:42 Moving to bzr? dhruva
2009-01-04 13:35 ` Christian Faulhammer
2009-01-04 13:50 ` David Reitter
2009-01-04 15:41 ` Karl Fogel
2009-01-04 17:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-01-05  3:50   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-01-05  4:20     ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-01-05  5:49       ` dhruva
2009-01-05  6:35       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-01-05 22:09         ` Stefan Monnier
2009-01-05 23:37           ` Chetan Pandya
2009-01-06 12:30             ` Richard M Stallman
2009-01-06 13:14               ` Paul R
2009-01-06 14:32               ` Alan Mackenzie
2009-01-06 14:51                 ` Will Farrington
2009-01-06  4:29           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-01-06 20:35             ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-01-06 20:38               ` Juanma Barranquero
2009-01-06 22:03                 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-01-06 22:14                   ` Juanma Barranquero
2009-01-06 22:58                     ` Karl Fogel
2009-01-07  0:53                       ` Juanma Barranquero
2009-01-07  3:43                         ` Stefan Monnier
2009-01-07  3:50                         ` Karl Fogel
2009-01-07  8:31                           ` Juanma Barranquero
2009-01-07 11:47                             ` Stefan Monnier
2009-01-07 12:00                               ` Juanma Barranquero
2009-01-07 12:23                                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2009-01-06 23:00                     ` Stefan Monnier
2009-01-07  0:56                       ` Juanma Barranquero
     [not found]                   ` <87zli4jcc4.fsf@workhorse.earlhome>
2009-01-07  3:41                     ` Stefan Monnier
     [not found]                       ` <87vdsrjcco.fsf@workhorse.earlhome>
2009-01-09  1:50                         ` Stefan Monnier
2009-01-18 22:56                           ` bzr repository ready? (was: Moving to bzr?) Karl Fogel
     [not found]                             ` <87eiyy3lag.fsf@notengoamigos.org>
2009-01-21  5:11                               ` bzr repository ready? Karl Fogel
2009-01-21  9:32                                 ` Andreas Schwab
2009-01-22  5:59                                   ` Karl Fogel
     [not found]                                 ` <874ozs34c6.fsf@notengoamigos.org>
2009-01-22  6:15                                   ` Karl Fogel
2009-01-22  8:24                                     ` dhruva
2009-01-22 14:34                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2009-01-23 17:00                                       ` Karl Fogel
2009-01-24  4:21                                         ` dhruva
2009-01-24 12:07                                           ` [Savannah-help-public] " Sylvain Beucler
2009-10-14  0:49                                         ` Daniel Clemente
2009-10-14  3:00                                           ` Karl Fogel
2009-10-24 19:38                                             ` Chong Yidong
2009-10-24 23:57                                               ` Karl Fogel
2009-10-30 23:38                                                 ` Andreas Schwab
2009-11-09 16:53                                                   ` Karl Fogel
2009-11-09 23:56                                                     ` Andreas Schwab
2009-11-11 22:45                                                       ` Karl Fogel
2009-11-11 23:06                                                         ` Andreas Schwab
2009-11-12  2:34                                                           ` Jason Earl
2009-11-12  4:16                                                             ` Karl Fogel
2009-11-12  4:35                                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-12  4:40                                                                 ` Karl Fogel
2009-11-12 15:21                                                                 ` Chong Yidong
2009-11-12 15:39                                                                   ` Andreas Schwab
2009-11-12 17:37                                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-12 18:01                                                                       ` Andreas Schwab
2009-11-12 20:11                                                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-12 23:37                                                                         ` Karl Fogel
2009-11-13  0:14                                                                           ` Jason Earl
2009-11-13  9:38                                                                             ` Andreas Schwab
2009-11-13 10:35                                                                               ` Andreas Schwab
2009-11-13 13:36                                                                                 ` Jason Earl
2009-11-13  0:13                                                                         ` Jason Earl
2009-11-13  1:12                                                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-13 14:33                                                                           ` Karl Fogel
2009-11-13 14:47                                                                             ` Karl Fogel
2009-11-13 15:08                                                                             ` Andreas Schwab
2009-11-13 17:47                                                                               ` Karl Fogel
2009-11-14 10:45                                                                             ` Andreas Schwab
2009-11-14 14:54                                                                               ` Jason Earl
2009-11-14 20:11                                                                               ` Karl Fogel
2009-11-12 18:19                                                                       ` Karl Fogel
2009-11-12 12:01                                                             ` Andreas Schwab
2009-11-12 15:03                                                               ` Jason Earl
2009-11-12 18:14                                                                 ` Karl Fogel
2009-11-12 13:55                                                         ` Andreas Schwab
2009-11-12 18:31                                                           ` Karl Fogel
2009-11-12 20:18                                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-12 20:57                                                               ` Karl Fogel
2009-11-12 22:04                                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-12 22:51                                                                   ` Karl Fogel
2009-11-13  9:42                                                                 ` Andreas Schwab
2009-11-13 11:11                                                                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-11-18 22:29                                                                   ` Karl Fogel
2009-11-18 23:08                                                                     ` Chong Yidong
2009-11-19  3:56                                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-18 23:09                                                                     ` Alan Mackenzie
2009-11-19  5:31                                                                       ` Karl Fogel
2009-11-20 13:34                                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-11-20 19:22                                                                           ` Karl Fogel
2009-11-20 19:34                                                                             ` Lennart Borgman
2009-11-20 20:39                                                                               ` Óscar Fuentes
2009-11-20 21:20                                                                                 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-11-20 22:46                                                                                   ` Óscar Fuentes
2009-11-21  5:05                                                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-21  5:34                                                                                       ` Óscar Fuentes
2009-11-21  6:59                                                                                         ` Karl Fogel
2009-11-21 20:08                                                                                           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-11-22 23:58                                                                                             ` Karl Fogel
2009-11-23  5:58                                                                                               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-11-23  6:41                                                                                                 ` Karl Fogel
2009-11-23 15:47                                                                                                   ` Karl Fogel
2009-11-23 16:58                                                                                                     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-11-23 19:24                                                                                                       ` Karl Fogel
2009-11-29 20:52                                                                                                         ` Karl Fogel
2009-11-30  6:18                                                                                                           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-11-30  6:23                                                                                                             ` Karl Fogel
2009-11-21 12:37                                                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-11-21 14:17                                                                                           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-11-21 17:17                                                                                             ` Óscar Fuentes
2009-11-21 18:18                                                                                               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-11-21 17:08                                                                                           ` Óscar Fuentes
2009-11-21 12:32                                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-11-21 12:12                                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-11-20 22:49                                                                                 ` Karl Fogel
2009-11-21  0:53                                                                                   ` Óscar Fuentes
2009-11-21 12:31                                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-11-21 16:45                                                                                       ` Óscar Fuentes
2009-11-21 19:29                                                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-11-21 20:17                                                                                           ` Óscar Fuentes
2009-11-21 21:28                                                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-11-21 22:51                                                                                               ` Óscar Fuentes
2009-11-22  4:19                                                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-11-22  0:54                                                                                               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-11-22  4:25                                                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-11-22  6:11                                                                                                   ` Óscar Fuentes
2009-11-22  6:53                                                                                                     ` Miles Bader
2009-11-22 14:45                                                                                                       ` Óscar Fuentes
2009-11-23  2:28                                                                                                     ` Richard Stallman
2009-11-23  3:09                                                                                                       ` Karl Fogel
2009-11-23 20:38                                                                                                         ` Richard Stallman
2009-11-23 22:19                                                                                                           ` Karl Fogel
2009-11-25 21:02                                                                                                             ` Richard Stallman
2009-11-25 22:19                                                                                                               ` Óscar Fuentes
2009-11-26  6:23                                                                                                                 ` Richard Stallman
2009-11-26  8:34                                                                                                                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-11-27  6:36                                                                                                                     ` Richard Stallman
2009-11-27 16:30                                                                                                                       ` Óscar Fuentes
2009-11-27 16:52                                                                                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-11-27 17:18                                                                                                                           ` Óscar Fuentes
2009-11-28  3:09                                                                                                                             ` Richard Stallman
2009-11-27 19:06                                                                                                                           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-11-27 19:22                                                                                                                             ` Lennart Borgman
2009-11-28  6:45                                                                                                                               ` tomas
2009-11-28  9:57                                                                                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-11-28 16:49                                                                                                                               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
     [not found]                                                                                                                 ` <E1NDXkp-0007Qr-VK@fencepost.gnu.org>
2009-11-26  7:09                                                                                                                   ` Óscar Fuentes
2009-11-25 22:26                                                                                                               ` David De La Harpe Golden
2009-11-25 23:14                                                                                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-25 23:58                                                                                                                 ` Óscar Fuentes
2009-11-26  1:31                                                                                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-26  1:07                                                                                                               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-11-27  6:35                                                                                                                 ` Richard Stallman
2009-11-27  8:17                                                                                                                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-11-27  6:36                                                                                                                 ` Richard Stallman
2009-11-27  9:14                                                                                                                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-11-27  9:21                                                                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-11-27 13:44                                                                                                                       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-11-28  3:10                                                                                                                     ` Richard Stallman
2009-11-28  6:50                                                                                                                       ` tomas
2009-11-28  7:06                                                                                                                       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-11-29  1:16                                                                                                                         ` Richard Stallman
2009-11-29  4:06                                                                                                                           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-11-29  4:18                                                                                                                             ` 
2009-11-30 15:52                                                                                                                               ` Richard Stallman
2009-11-30 16:31                                                                                                                                 ` Karl Fogel
2009-11-29  4:18                                                                                                                             ` Óscar Fuentes
2009-11-29  5:39                                                                                                                               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-11-30  2:10                                                                                                                           ` Karl Fogel
2009-12-01  4:10                                                                                                                             ` Richard Stallman
2009-12-01  6:39                                                                                                                               ` Karl Fogel
2009-12-05  6:50                                                                                                                                 ` Richard Stallman
2009-12-05 17:44                                                                                                                                   ` Karl Fogel
2009-11-23  3:09                                                                                                       ` Óscar Fuentes
2009-11-23 20:38                                                                                                         ` Richard Stallman
2009-11-23 22:22                                                                                                           ` Karl Fogel
2009-11-24 22:47                                                                                                             ` Richard Stallman
2009-11-25  1:46                                                                                                               ` Jason Earl
2009-11-23 22:36                                                                                                           ` Óscar Fuentes
2009-11-23  3:17                                                                                                       ` Glenn Morris
2009-11-22  5:13                                                                                                 ` Jason Earl
2009-11-22  7:19                                                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-11-22 20:32                                                                                                     ` Jason Earl
2009-11-22 21:37                                                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-11-22 23:15                                                                                                         ` Óscar Fuentes
2009-11-22  9:45                                                                                                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-11-22 13:08                                                                                                     ` tomas
2009-11-22 23:43                                                                                                     ` Jason Earl
2009-11-23  4:39                                                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-11-23  0:05                                                                                                     ` Jason Earl
2009-11-23  6:44                                                                                                       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-11-23 19:30                                                                                                         ` Jason Earl
2009-11-23 23:41                                                                                                           ` David De La Harpe Golden
2009-11-24  0:01                                                                                                             ` Karl Fogel
2009-11-24  1:19                                                                                                               ` David De La Harpe Golden
2009-11-24  2:04                                                                                                                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-11-24 23:41                                                                                                                   ` David De La Harpe Golden
2009-11-25  5:28                                                                                                                     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-11-21  4:41                                                                                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-11-21  4:39                                                                                     ` Lennart Borgman
2009-11-21 12:14                                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-11-22 23:23                                                                                     ` Karl Fogel
2009-11-21 12:06                                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-11-21 14:40                                                                                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-11-21 16:27                                                                                     ` Óscar Fuentes
2009-11-21 18:13                                                                                       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-11-21 18:26                                                                                         ` Óscar Fuentes
2009-11-21 22:52                                                                                     ` Richard Stallman
2009-11-22  1:00                                                                                       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-11-22 21:06                                                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-20 21:56                                                                             ` Chong Yidong
2009-11-20 22:47                                                                               ` Karl Fogel
2009-11-20 22:51                                                                               ` Óscar Fuentes
2009-11-21 22:52                                                                                 ` Richard Stallman
2009-11-21  5:12                                                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-21  4:38                                                                             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-11-21 10:43                                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-11-21 16:10                                                                               ` Óscar Fuentes
2009-11-21 19:32                                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-11-21 19:58                                                                                   ` Andreas Schwab
2009-11-22 20:55                                                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-22 21:29                                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-11-23  2:33                                                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-22 22:59                                                                                 ` Óscar Fuentes
2009-11-23  2:45                                                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-23  3:20                                                                                     ` Óscar Fuentes
2009-11-23  4:34                                                                                       ` Óscar Fuentes
2009-11-23 19:38                                                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-11-21 19:01                                                                             ` Glenn Morris
2009-11-22 23:41                                                                               ` Karl Fogel
2009-11-23  0:00                                                                                 ` Óscar Fuentes
2009-11-23  4:36                                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-11-23  5:11                                                                                   ` Óscar Fuentes
2009-11-23  5:50                                                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-23  7:35                                                                                       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-11-23 14:39                                                                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-23 15:17                                                                                           ` Óscar Fuentes
2009-11-23 16:45                                                                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-23 18:06                                                                                           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-11-23 19:36                                                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-11-23 22:59                                                                                               ` Andreas Schwab
2009-11-24  1:14                                                                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-24 22:47                                                                                                   ` Richard Stallman
2009-11-25  8:55                                                                                                     ` Karl Fogel
2009-11-25 10:32                                                                                                     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-11-25 17:48                                                                                                       ` Karl Fogel
2009-11-25 18:22                                                                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-11-25 19:26                                                                                                           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-11-25 20:01                                                                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-11-25 18:53                                                                                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-24  4:20                                                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-11-24  1:33                                                                                               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-11-24  7:28                                                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-11-24  9:35                                                                                                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-11-24 11:04                                                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-11-24 11:54                                                                                                       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-11-24 14:58                                                                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-11-25  5:39                                                                                                           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-11-25 21:01                                                                                                         ` Richard Stallman
2009-11-24  2:56                                                                                           ` Making the tarball with bzr data (was: bzr repository ready?) Óscar Fuentes
2009-11-30 16:34                                                                                             ` Lennart Borgman
2009-11-30 18:46                                                                                               ` Making the tarball with bzr data Óscar Fuentes
2009-11-30 18:52                                                                                               ` Jason Earl
2009-11-23 12:11                                                                                       ` bzr repository ready? Eli Zaretskii
2009-11-23 14:28                                                                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-23 18:52                                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-11-23 12:07                                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-11-19  0:49                                                                     ` Andreas Schwab
2009-11-19  5:02                                                                       ` Ken Raeburn
2009-11-19  6:38                                                                       ` Karl Fogel
2009-11-20 13:23                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-11-20 19:33                                                                       ` Karl Fogel
2009-01-23 17:56                                     ` Karl Fogel
     [not found]                                       ` <874ozp4ld3.fsf@notengoamigos.org>
2009-01-28 21:24                                         ` Karl Fogel
2009-01-29  9:30                                           ` Daniel Clemente
2009-01-29 18:19                                             ` Karl Fogel
2009-01-29 18:50                                               ` Dan Nicolaescu
2009-01-29 20:18                                                 ` Karl Fogel
2009-01-30  9:06                                                   ` Dan Nicolaescu
2009-01-30 15:50                                                     ` Karl Fogel
     [not found]                                           ` <87y6wvhxrk.fsf@notengoamigos.org>
     [not found]                                             ` <8763jwg1j8.fsf@red-bean.com>
2009-01-30 19:38                                               ` Andreas Schwab
2009-01-30 20:01                                                 ` Karl Fogel
2009-01-30 20:24                                                   ` Andreas Schwab
2009-01-31  1:03                                                     ` Karl Fogel
2009-01-31  5:02                                                       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-01-31  8:59                                                       ` Andreas Schwab
2009-02-04 17:28                                                         ` Karl Fogel
2009-02-04 20:48                                                           ` Andreas Schwab
2009-02-04 22:49                                                             ` Karl Fogel
2009-02-06 20:19                                                               ` Karl Fogel
     [not found]                                                                 ` <87k583nnxc.fsf@notengoamigos.org>
2009-02-07  3:42                                                                   ` Karl Fogel
2009-04-23 14:53                                         ` Stefan Monnier
     [not found]                                           ` <871vrj8ew5.fsf@notengoamigos.org>
2009-04-24  0:31                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2009-04-28 16:11                                           ` Karl Fogel
2009-04-28 16:33                                             ` Samuel Bronson
2009-04-28 17:29                                               ` Karl Fogel
2009-04-28 17:47                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-04-28 18:11                                               ` Karl Fogel
2009-04-29  7:08                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-04-28 18:30                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2009-04-28 19:31                                               ` Karl Fogel
2009-04-29  1:07                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-04-29  7:12                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-04-29 14:30                                                   ` Karl Fogel
     [not found]                                               ` <87fxfsr1md.fsf@notengoamigos.org>
2009-04-28 21:56                                                 ` Karl Fogel
2009-04-29  7:08                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-04-28 23:47                                             ` Jason Rumney
2009-04-29  1:27                                               ` Samuel Bronson
2009-04-30 19:39                                             ` Karl Fogel
2009-01-21 23:33                       ` Moving to bzr? John Yates
2009-01-22  1:57                         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-01-22 15:40                           ` Richard M Stallman
2009-01-13 18:58       ` Giorgos Keramidas
2009-01-05  9:48     ` Lennart Borgman
2009-01-05 11:07       ` Stephen J. Turnbull [this message]
2009-01-05 14:52         ` Karl Fogel
2009-01-05 11:39       ` dhruva
2009-01-05 12:14         ` Nick Roberts
2009-01-05 12:26           ` Lennart Borgman
2009-01-05 12:34           ` dhruva
     [not found]         ` <87wsd9tqt6.fsf@notengoamigos.org>
2009-01-06  3:29           ` dhruva
2009-01-06  6:07             ` dhruva
2009-01-06  6:21               ` 马旋(SuperMMX)
2009-01-06 11:42             ` Daniel Clemente
2009-01-04 18:09 ` Tassilo Horn
2009-01-09  9:31   ` Miles Bader
2009-01-09 10:35     ` dhruva
2009-01-09 20:20       ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-01-09 20:26         ` Juanma Barranquero
2009-01-10  9:14           ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-01-10  2:27         ` Stefan Monnier
2009-01-10  3:06           ` Jason Rumney
2009-01-10  9:23             ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-01-10 20:45               ` Stefan Monnier
2009-01-10  9:23           ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-01-04 21:41 ` Richard M Stallman

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