From: Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Rename `mini-' options
Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 18:21:53 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87fxf5768e.fsf@catnip.gol.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 000001c9d5ff$c53ebe10$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com
"Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com> writes:
>> For better or worse, Emacs traditionally distinguishes "the
>> minibuffer" from "the echo area", and resize-mini-windows applies to
>> both. So a name which captures this subtlety is arguably better than
>> one which lies a bit for the sake of convenient document searching.
>
> And the name `resize-mini-windows' captures this subtlety just how? Is
> it because it cleverly doesn't mention _either_ the minibuffer or the
> echo area? That's supposed to help somehow?
Sure. If no existing term captures a concept, then it seems a
reasonable argument that it's better to make a new term than use an
incorrect one.
Of course, it's not always to come up with a good term, but I'm not sure
what other term would be better. The terms you suggested are pithy, but
seem inaccurate.
Maybe it's better to just declare that "minibuffer-window" always
includes the echo-area, but it's not clear to me whether this would run
into other conflicts or not (e.g. uses of that term that really only
intend to refer to the minibuffer's window).
> The more important point is that this is an _exception_ to the rest of
> the "existing practice". No where else does `mini-' occur.
Eh? An "exception" to _what_ existing practice? Are there other
variables/functions which control both echo-area and the minibuffer
display, which use some other term than "mini-window"?
> And it remains unexplained, undocumented.
Perhaps the documentation could use improvement of course.
Indeed, that seems like the most reasonable solution to this issue
(certainly in the short term): Make sure these variables are mentioned
in every place where they should be; in the end (while apropos is very
convenient, it's not a replacement for the real documentation).
> I apologize for not catching this bug sooner.
It's not a bug, of course.
-Miles
--
Any man who is a triangle, has thee right, when in Cartesian Space,
to have angles, which when summed, come to know more, nor no less,
than nine score degrees, should he so wish. [TEMPLE OV THEE LEMUR]
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-05-16 9:21 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-05-16 1:47 Rename `mini-' options Davis Herring
2009-05-16 2:11 ` Drew Adams
2009-05-16 2:22 ` Juanma Barranquero
2009-05-16 2:32 ` Drew Adams
2009-05-16 3:09 ` Juanma Barranquero
2009-05-16 4:20 ` Drew Adams
2009-05-16 10:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-05-16 19:20 ` Drew Adams
2009-05-16 19:47 ` Juanma Barranquero
2009-05-16 6:43 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-05-16 7:13 ` Miles Bader
2009-05-16 8:24 ` Drew Adams
2009-05-16 9:21 ` Miles Bader [this message]
2009-05-16 19:21 ` Drew Adams
2009-05-17 1:59 ` Miles Bader
2009-05-16 9:18 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-05-17 4:10 ` Stefan Monnier
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2009-05-15 20:59 ` Drew Adams
2009-05-16 0:12 ` Deniz Dogan
2009-05-16 0:21 ` Drew Adams
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