From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: bazaar: "unable to obtain lock" Date: Fri, 01 Jan 2010 18:59:13 +0900 Message-ID: <87fx6qno26.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: <87my11gmf4.fsf@red-bean.com> <87fx6sqbnt.fsf@blah.blah> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1262339362 31516 80.91.229.12 (1 Jan 2010 09:49:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 1 Jan 2010 09:49:22 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Kevin Ryde Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jan 01 10:49:15 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1NQe8A-0003wS-PZ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 01 Jan 2010 10:49:15 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36687 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NQe8B-0007qk-B2 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 01 Jan 2010 04:49:15 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NQe85-0007ps-Un for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Jan 2010 04:49:09 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NQe80-0007m8-Tf for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Jan 2010 04:49:09 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=39566 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NQe80-0007m4-Lo for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Jan 2010 04:49:04 -0500 Original-Received: from mtps02.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp ([130.158.97.224]:42943) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NQe80-0005S0-6H for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Jan 2010 04:49:04 -0500 Original-Received: from uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.99.156]) by mtps02.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6E3A7FFA; Fri, 1 Jan 2010 18:49:02 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: by uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B0F511A33D7; Fri, 1 Jan 2010 18:59:13 +0900 (JST) In-Reply-To: <87fx6sqbnt.fsf@blah.blah> X-Mailer: VM 8.0.12-devo-585 under 21.5 (beta29) "garbanzo" 1444e28f1a3d XEmacs Lucid (x86_64-unknown-linux) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:119191 Archived-At: Kevin Ryde writes: > Karl Fogel writes: > > > > http://www.red-bean.com/kfogel/emacs-bzr-repository.tar.gz >=20 > Is anything smaller possible for those of us at the end of a straw? > I see BzrQuickStartForEmacsDevs advises 300mb similarly. Is some sort > of small no-history checkout possible? It's possible, but AFAIK not without a smart server at the other end. This is being worked on, but it's a Savannah issue with no ETA last I heard, not an Emacs or Bazaar issue. For status on this, see https://savannah.gnu.org/support/?107077. =D3scar mentioned "lightweight checkout", but as I understand it this may involve downloading the whole repo anyway, since actually extracting files from the archive storage is done by your local bzr. I don't think it's worth the effort for you, because of the way Bazaar stores content in packs (compressed archives) of several megabytes. Maybe somebody could create a temporary mirror with a smart server on it for folks like you. It could be "by invitation only" to limit bandwidth and server wear-and-tear.