From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ted Zlatanov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Autoload from a web page? Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2010 12:12:11 -0600 Organization: =?utf-8?B?0KLQtdC+0LTQvtGAINCX0LvQsNGC0LDQvdC+0LI=?= @ Cienfuegos Message-ID: <87fx6livt0.fsf@lifelogs.com> References: <201bac3a0912301006s4abb3803qc80acf2dbc90249c@mail.gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1262629288 15545 80.91.229.12 (4 Jan 2010 18:21:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 18:21:28 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jan 04 19:21:21 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1NRrYC-0007rR-Bg for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 04 Jan 2010 19:21:08 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38388 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NRrQC-0004Vb-Fw for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 04 Jan 2010 13:12:52 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NRrQ4-0004UR-NL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Jan 2010 13:12:44 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NRrPy-0004Rz-UK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Jan 2010 13:12:43 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=38986 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NRrPy-0004Rr-OP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Jan 2010 13:12:38 -0500 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:60861) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NRrPy-0006PK-4u for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Jan 2010 13:12:38 -0500 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1NRrPu-0004RC-Dt for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Jan 2010 19:12:34 +0100 Original-Received: from 38.98.147.130 ([38.98.147.130]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 04 Jan 2010 19:12:34 +0100 Original-Received: from tzz by 38.98.147.130 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 04 Jan 2010 19:12:34 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 24 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 38.98.147.130 X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6; d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/23.1.90 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:BffzvSpLRLAnReAlKSfA6foIkcw= X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:119384 Archived-At: On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 19:06:27 +0100 Jonas Bernoulli wrote: JB> I favor the model where the package manager does clone the repository from JB> the mirror as one of the steps required to install a package. I think the delivery method should not require DVCS or network access. The repository should simply be a URL which can point to a file or a directory or a DVCS location. Thus a repository snapshot can be delivered in a single file or over the network (e.g. see Ubuntu's repositories for a more static version of this). It should be a single URL, though, not a set of URLs or some other list of information. Adding a repository and listing the known repositories should be really easy. DVCS only benefits repository maintainers. End users should be shielded from DVCS operations IMHO. They can still benefit from delivery via DVCS but it should all be hidden. JB> The package manager should only operate on complete packages. Agreed. Piecemeal installation of .el files is unnecessary in at least 90% of the cases I've seen. Ted