From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ted Zlatanov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: finder.el UI Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 09:29:50 -0500 Organization: =?utf-8?B?0KLQtdC+0LTQvtGAINCX0LvQsNGC0LDQvdC+0LI=?= @ Cienfuegos Message-ID: <87fx3szaxt.fsf@lifelogs.com> References: <87zl2g24xy.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87mxyfq3bz.fsf@gmx.de> <87sk87h49a.fsf@gmx.de> <87hbomwu4b.fsf_-_@mail.jurta.org> <878w9yr0zh.fsf_-_@mail.jurta.org> <87pr37ka78.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <87fx41uwl4.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <874okc6x5p.fsf_-_@lifelogs.com> <87y6hnq59o.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <878w9k1o1g.fsf@lifelogs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1269269152 25675 80.91.229.12 (22 Mar 2010 14:45:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 14:45:52 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Mar 22 15:45:44 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ntisw-0000cZ-F9 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 22 Mar 2010 15:45:42 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43044 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ntisw-0007cU-0C for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 22 Mar 2010 10:45:42 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Ntise-0007W7-Nf for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Mar 2010 10:45:24 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=42916 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ntisd-0007NM-8j for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Mar 2010 10:45:24 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ntiiv-00077f-Qo for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Mar 2010 10:35:22 -0400 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:52079) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ntiiv-00077Y-G3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Mar 2010 10:35:21 -0400 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ntiic-0001eB-VX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Mar 2010 15:35:02 +0100 Original-Received: from 38.98.147.130 ([38.98.147.130]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 22 Mar 2010 15:35:02 +0100 Original-Received: from tzz by 38.98.147.130 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 22 Mar 2010 15:35:02 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 27 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 38.98.147.130 X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6; d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/23.1.91 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:GNaQwpeK8xlch+ee16uRtksBH/g= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:122475 Archived-At: On Mon, 22 Mar 2010 10:19:15 -0400 Stefan Monnier wrote: >> I tried it and it's a browser that deadends at the commentary. Wouldn't >> it make sense to at least let the user browse the original package >> sources? But this is still much better than the old finder and I would >> get rid of the old one. But you mention another finder: SM> Indeed, maybe we should move finder.el to lisp/obsolete? Works for me. But Juri's `finder' looks better than `info-finder' so perhaps `info-finder' can be folded into it. >> Either way, users who look for packages also like to install and >> activate them, SM> All packages bundled with Emacs (i.e. all those found by finder.el) are SM> already installed and activated. I thought it would make sense to link what package.el will manage into finder.el and other Emacs facilities, so this would no longer be true. finder.el would show (clearly marked regarding their state and repo origin) available, installed, and activated packages; there would also be a way from there to install and activate a package, either internally or through a link to the package.el UI. Do you disagree with that proposal? Ted